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Canes Trade for Rantanen, Hall

Trade grade from our friends at ESPN

Carolina Hurricanes
Grade: A+​

Quite simply, the Hurricanes are coming for everyone.

The franchise that built its success from drafting and developing has now added an aggressive edge to be active in free agency, while pursuing the sort of trades that make them an even stronger Stanley Cup contender.

Already one of the NHL's more legitimate championship front runners, the Canes getting Rantanen and Hall only heightens the expectations that they have a roster capable of winning it all this season.

Rantanen provides a level of goal-scoring and playmaking ability that could make a potential first line featuring Sebastian Aho and Andrei Svechnikov one of the more dangerous in the NHL. Rantanen's ability to facilitate play while using his powerful, 6-foot-4 frame to fend off defenders could be the detail that allows Aho and Svechnikov the needed time to find the type of space that places opponents in a difficult spot.
 
CMal you are the resident expert in here on cap and salary stuff…doesn’t the affordable buyout window on the KK contract still being open another year also give Tulsky and company even more clout and cap space needed to get Rantanen the number he wants? You might not be able to trade KK but that card in your hand on that affordable buyout might still be valuable to play!
 
Just wow.

The Canes got bigger, stronger and better right now. That is exactly what many of us have wanted for years come play off time. Sure the price is steep especially if Rantanen turns out to be just a rental but you can never be disappointed when you get the best player by far in a trade.
 
Fayettenamcanesfan said:
Trade grade from our friends at ESPN

Carolina Hurricanes​

Grade: A+​

Quite simply, the Hurricanes are coming for everyone.

The franchise that built its success from drafting and developing has now added an aggressive edge to be active in free agency, while pursuing the sort of trades that make them an even stronger Stanley Cup contender.

Already one of the NHL's more legitimate championship front runners, the Canes getting Rantanen and Hall only heightens the expectations that they have a roster capable of winning it all this season.

Rantanen provides a level of goal-scoring and playmaking ability that could make a potential first line featuring Sebastian Aho and Andrei Svechnikov one of the more dangerous in the NHL. Rantanen's ability to facilitate play while using his powerful, 6-foot-4 frame to fend off defenders could be the detail that allows Aho and Svechnikov the needed time to find the type of space that places opponents in a difficult spot.
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Hold on a second, Since when did we have friends at ESPN, aside from Kevin Weeks? I'd accept kind words from ESPN, but they liked to shit on this franchise entirely too often & too long to give them a pass. *firmly holding onto grudge*

Jim
 
I feel like a rugpull is going to happen. I won't believe that this trade is real until Rants scores his first goal with the Hurricanes.
 
NoMich said:
I feel like a rugpull is going to happen. I won't believe that this trade is real until Rants scores his first goal with the Hurricanes.
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Yep. It’s the accumulated trauma from 2009 - 18. Even after 6 straight years in the playoffs, something bad is always right around the corner.
 
We still need a 2C.. KK is a third C but we got J staal. A really Nice 3C.We also no longer have a 4C but there are options. Suzuki? Jost whjen he returns Swiss army knife Martinook?
 
CanadaCanes said:
CMal you are the resident expert in here on cap and salary stuff…doesn’t the affordable buyout window on the KK contract still being open another year also give Tulsky and company even more clout and cap space needed to get Rantanen the number he wants? You might not be able to trade KK but that card in your hand on that affordable buyout might still be valuable to play!
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Yes, this coming offseason's ordinary buyout window offers the Canes one more opportunity to buy out KK at 1/3. Spread over 10 years, his cap hit would be $841k the first 2 seasons, drop to $461k for 3 seasons, and go back to $841k for 5 more seasons. It basically $4 million in cap savings per season.

Of course if KK stays on this heater we won't be thinking about a buyout.

We have the cap room to overpay Rantanen his $13+ million, easily.
 
Tryamw said:
We still need a 2C.. KK is a third C but we got J staal. A really Nice 3C.We also no longer have a 4C but there are options. Suzuki? Jost whjen he returns Swiss army knife Martinook?
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It is going to be interesting to see how RBA and Daniels shake out the lines now. Rantanen can play center but generally hasn't. He is a +faceoff player who takes 5 draws a game even as a winger. He is 51% for his career, 53.3% this season. So if he ends up with KK as the center on the 2nd line, he can help with key faceoffs and when KK get's tossed from the circle (which is more than 50% of the time).

And then Taylor Hall?

So we could go:

Svech-Aho-Blake
Rantanen-KK-Hall
Martinook-Staal-Jarvis
Robinson-Roslovic-Jaaska

Flip Svech and Rantanen as desired. That 2nd line as I have it would be a physical nightmare to play against, not because they would out there hitting everyone, but go ahead and try to outmuscle that line in the corners. There will be a lot of juggling options, but I would think that Hall is going to be the 2nd line RW to start. Certainly though the coaches could just staple the new superstar with Aho, that would make sense to do.

Some miscellaneous stuff on Rantanen and Hall

* Neither of these guys have been penalty killers. Like, ever. Hall has averaged 8 seconds of SH TOI per game in his career. Which is a lot compared to Rantanen's 2 seconds per game.

* Shootouts? No help there. Rantanen is 8 for 27 (29.6%) Hall is 6 for 26 (23.1%) For perspective, Svech is 11 for 25 (44%) and Aho is 6 for 25 (24.0%)
 
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It's funny to look back at that 2010 draft. So much was made over who was the better player between 1 and 2. There's several players farther down that way round I'd take over both of them, in hindsight. But many draft years end up that way. A lot of those "can't miss" guys, do in fact, miss. I think if you redid the 2018 draft it would look a LOT different.
 
Thinking about how well the Canes have managed their cap situation, which has allowed them to make a blockbuster deal like this. We may not sign Rantanen after the season, but we could certainly have room to do so.
 
I feel like this time around you can’t really play the rental game and I really sincerely hope the deal was made to get him extended long term. Too good of a player over his entire career to just have him here for a few months. Cap is going way up the space is there, the player is a proven star, no rental make it a long term romance please.
 
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