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Core 4 No More: The Motherfucking Off-Season Thread

LeafGm said:
One of the things that could actually make this regular season fun and interesting for me is if we had a genuine youth movement.

Robertson, Knies, McMann, Cowan, Holmberg, Baby Nylander, Minten, Steeves…give as many of these guys as much ice-time and opportunity as possible.

Of course, instead of that, we’ll surely get MOAR Pacioretty, Jarnkrok, Kampf, Dewar, Lorentz & Reeves. With one of the kids tagging in for occasional spot duty on the 4th line if and when injuries have given us no other choice.
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Dewar is younger than McMann Holmberg A.Nylander and Steeves.
 
zeke said:
Dewar is younger than McMann Holmberg A.Nylander and Steeves.
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Sure. But from his track record and what I’ve seen so far, I’ve already decided that he’s a shitty plug from the Gregor/ZAR mold with no notable upside.

So bring on the mystery boxes instead, please.
 
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C Dewar AHL 19gms, 0.90ppg -- NHL 35gms, 0.95p1/60, 0.95p/60
C Holmberg AHL 6gms, 0.67ppg -- NHL 0gms
W Steeves AHL 58gms, 0.79ppg --- NHL 3gms, 0.00p1/60, 2.51p/60

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C Dewar NHL 81gms, 0.65p1/60, 1.06p/60 -----> AHL 0gms
C Holmberg NHL 37gms, 1.67p1/60, 2.00p/60 -> AHL 45gms, 0.67ppg
W Steeves NHL 3gms, 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60 -> AHL 72gms, 0.78ppg

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C Dewar NHL 74gms, 1.13p1/60, 1.31p/60 ----> AHL 0gms
C Holmberg NHL 54gms, 1.40p1/60, 1.72p/60 -> AHL 11gms, 0.91ppg
W Steeves NHL 1gms, 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60 --> AHL 68gms, 0.84ppg



NHL Career

Dewar: 190gms, 5v5 9:09toi (+4.8dzs%), 50.2xgf% (-0.1rel), 0.89p1/60, 1.14p/60 ---> 4v5 1:40toi, +9.3xgfrel ----> FO 476/1046 (45.5%)
Holmberg: 91gms, 5v5 10:05toi (-3.5dzs%), 51.9xgf% (-0.7rel), 1.51p1/60, 1.83p/60 -> 4v5 0:37toi, -21.7xgfrel ---> FO 187/422 (44.3%)


Dewar has been used in very tough defensive usage to start his career and has done very well in that role. He's fast and gritty. I'm a fan. He probably doesn't have scoring hands in the NHL but he looks like a good young defensive player for cheap.


I hope both of these guys can up their game on faceoffs, though. What they've done so far there isn't good enough, especially since they're probably not up against the top faceoff guys much. Good thing is faceoffs are one area where youngsters really can improve on dramatically with experience.

Makes it hard to trade Kampf if these guys can't hack it in the dot. Though maybe if the org really likes Minten....
 
Last 2yrs:

Pacioretty (36): 52gms, 14:21, Pace: 11gls, 41pts, 126hts, 36bks

5v5: 11:51 (-4.1dzs%), 50.8xgf% (+1.7), 0.97p1/60, 1.36p/60, 4.8sh%, 8.0oish%
5v4: 2:13, 4.42p1/60, 6.47p/60, 11.5sh%, 16.1oish%

Interesting that his PP production is still excellent, while his 5v5 production seems to be a bit deflated due to shooting percentages.

Spezza comp might not be bad, though I think Patches is less of a liability defensively.
 
MindzEye said:
Robbie could have been had for a 3rd on an offer sheet, no?

If no one was willing to pony up then, we can't seriously be trading him for less than that now....
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Kinda lucky we didn't get offersheeted tbh. Or maybe this is part of the deal with having old boy Treliving as GM.
 
My guess is Kampf.

Lorentz brought in as backup 4th line C if Minten isn't ready and 2.4 mil opens space for both players.
 
I worry that he still might move Liljegren. Not that i'm in love with Lilly at the moment but still.

Adding Hakanpaa you have to think would be wanting him to play, at least as a 3rd pair / PK guy.

Thing is that should probably come at the expense of Benoiit, not Lilly. Having all of Benoit Hakanpaa Tanev in the lineup would be too much of a skill deficit i think.

And taking out Benoit would let us go with balanced L/R pairings.

McCabe --- Tanev
Rielly --- Hak/Lilly
OEL --- Hak/Lilly

or maybe

Rielly -- Tanev
McCabe --- Hakanpaa
OEL - Liljegren
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and I like Benoit but tbh he's like the worst offensive dman in hockey.
 
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