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Core 4 No More: The Motherfucking Off-Season Thread

Elliotte said 3 things yesterday;
1. They were meeting Wednesday to make decision
2. Berube
3. Just because all 3 names are on Fridays news conference doesn’t mean they will all be there

1 for 3 so far. Shanny may still go.
 
Wayward DP said:
I mean, we should with the talent we have
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There's no Giroux. There's Marner who only looks pass, Matthews who only looks shot. Rielly who only looks pass. Maybe they need to run things through Willy and not Mitch. I don't know what the issue is but when you get shut down every single playoff after 3 powerplay coaches, it just tells me that the players are likely too predictable. This doesn't happen with other elite teams. It's not black or white of course... Guy Boucher obviously had no fucking idea how to coach a powerplay too.

Consistently elite powerplay players are typically dual threats because it removes a shit ton of predictability and makes the series pre scout far more challenging. So yeah a lot of it is coaching but things are rarely only one or the other in life. 3 pp coaches later and it's obviously a little of column A and a little of column B.
 
Preston said:
There's no Giroux. There's Marner who only looks pass, Matthews who only looks shot. Rielly who only looks pass. Maybe they need to run things through Willy and not Mitch. I don't know what the issue is but when you get shut down every single playoff after 3 powerplay coaches, it just tells me that the players are likely too predictable. This doesn't happen with other elite teams. It's not black or white of course... Guy Boucher obviously had no fucking idea how to coach a powerplay too.

Consistently elite powerplay players are typically dual threats because it removes a shit ton of predictability and makes the series pre scout far more challenging. So yeah a lot of it is coaching but it's rarely only one or there other. 3 pp coaches later and it's obviously a little of column A and a little of column B.
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But…. It was way better all year long? It seems like an adjustment issue.
 
hockeylover said:
But…. It was way better all year long? It seems like an adjustment issue.
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It's great every season, until the end of the year. Yes the coaches can't adapt, but neither can the players. It's been an issue every year. When PKs adapt to Kucherov always shooting, Kucherov will start faking shot and going pass to keep them honest, and vice versa. Because he can. Not like Marner will keep anyone honest with his muffin. It's easier to defend.
 
I just don't get how you can look at the body of work and 3 pp coaches later and say it's ONLY a coaching issue. That just doesn't register with me, I'm sorry. But I'm rarely a black or white kinda dude.
 
Preston said:
There's no Giroux. There's Marner who only looks pass, Matthews who only looks shot. Rielly who only looks pass. Maybe they need to run things through Willy and not Mitch. I don't know what the issue is but when you get shut down every single playoff after 3 powerplay coaches, it just tells me that the players are likely too predictable. This doesn't happen with other elite teams. It's not black or white of course... Guy Boucher obviously had no fucking idea how to coach a powerplay too.

Consistently elite powerplay players are typically dual threats because it removes a shit ton of predictability and makes the series pre scout far more challenging. So yeah a lot of it is coaching but things are rarely only one or the other in life. 3 pp coaches later and it's obviously a little of column A and a little of column B.
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still think our guys would actually perform better without any coaching. and like you said, let Willy run it. dual threat. remember him and Matty on the PP earlier in their career? they anchored a unit without Marner and were fucking great.

let the talented players do their think. stop overthinking it.

and goddamn it have more than a single fucking entry play. jesus h. christ.
 
leafman101 said:
But it’s never an issue until the playoffs. And it’s the PK too.
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Late season and playoffs year. Teams adapt. Leafs coaches can't adapt, Leafs players can't adapt. Out of every scenario in hockey, powerplay is the one where true pp talent shines, with or without structure. If the players aren't adapting to the opposition's adjustments and the coaches aren't adapting to the oppositions adjustments, you're pooped. It's very obviously both. You can argue on the weighting but how many more pp coaches do you need?
 
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