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Core 4 No More: The Motherfucking Off-Season Thread

oh now we don't care about rounds.

ok let's look at records.

99-04: 41-39
17-24: 24-33


Core Ages:

Matthews 19-26
Marner 19-26
Nylander 20-27
Kadri 27-28 / Tavares 29-33
Rielly 22-29


Sundin 27-32
Thomas 35-37 / Roberts 34-37
Berezin 27-29 / Mogilny 32-34
Kaberle 20-25
Berard 21-22 / McCabe 25-28
 
No, we can look at rounds. It’s just comparing a team that’s won one round in seven years to one that won six rounds in four years and rolling that all up into “one round deeper” is pretty disingenuous, but I think you know that.
oh, he knows
 
No, we can look at rounds. It’s just comparing a team that’s won one round in seven years to one that won six rounds in four years and rolling that all up into “one round deeper” is pretty disingenuous, but I think you know that.

Ok they got one whole round deeper multiple times.
 
Maybe its cause I’m old and cynical now but those teams inspired confidence. I expected to win, and they were fun to watch. Opposite of the current lot.
6 rounds won in 4 years vs 1 round in 7 years tells the story. You expected them to win because they won a lot more than the current group. They were still failures in the end though.
 
I'm also not sure what the media narrative was as I was an early teen. From what I remember those teams had 0 expectation and the sens were the golden child of the Canadian teams.

Meanwhile this team based on the media is garbage and is still expected to make the 2nd or 3rd round or everything is a failure.
 
Entirely possible that we say the same about Berube.

Yup

If we're trapping after the deadline with 5 grenade launchers on the blueline, I'll be first in line to say the same about Berube.

What I know sitting here right now is that Babcock was some sort of weirdo hockey villain and the last game Keefe coached we lost with Noah Gregor on the ice in the 3rd period of a tied game 7.

I'm open to being disappointed in new and exciting ways though, sure.
 
I think most of us agree that the 21-22 team was our best team, both regular season and playoffs (even though they lost to the bolts in round 1 and beat them the next year).

Here's the roster players that are still here from that year:

Matthews 24 --> Matthews 27
Marner 24 --> Marner 27
Nylander 25 --> Nylander 28

Tavares 31 --> Tavares 34
Kampf 26 --> Kampf 29


Rielly 26 --> Rielly 29
Liljegren 22 --> Liljegren 25

and here's the changes slotted in the best I can:

Bunting 26 --> Knies 22
Mikheyev 27 --> Domi 29
Kerfoot 27 --> Jarnkrok 33

Engvall 25 --> McMann 29
Blackwell 28 --> Holmberg 25
Kase 26 --> Robertson 23

Spezza 38 --> Pacioretty 36
Simmonds 33 --> Dewar 25
Clifford 31 --> Reaves 37


Muzzin 32 --> McCabe 31
Brodie 31 --> Tanev 34

Giordano 38 --> OEL 33
Lyubushkin 27 --> Hakanpaa 32

Holl 29 --> Benoit 26
Sandin 21 --> Timmins 26


Campbell 30 --> Stolarz 30
Kallgren 25 --> Woll 26
Mrazek 30 --> Murray 30
 
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