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GDT | Game 30 | VS (unfortunately not the New York) Jets | Saturday, December 14th | 7:00 PM EST

That's one guy GW. There are other examples of just not doing anything.

Look at how Washington retooled
Washington was never in a position to go scorched tank like us , our timeline was very different

One of the best retool jobs in recent memory but Habs were not in that position

Almost every player Hugo inherited was either shit , done like Weber or had a bad contract

Habs were never picking up PLD and his entire contract or give up a first for Sandin

They were not handing Strome a 5 year deal ( he was never going to us anyway ) or Ottawa give us Chykrun .

Add that to Ovy , Wilson , and Carlson still productive plus a solid goalie tandem on the cheap

Hugo had to gut it first then fix it brick by brick , there was no retool in the plan.
 
No.

We were talking about that one guy when you made your idiotic comment.
I would still have gone after Jiricek fucknut. It's irrelevant to me that you wouldn't. Comment wasn't idiotic, your entire stance on team building is what's idiotic.

Yeah that's a fuck you.
 
I would still have gone after Jiricek fucknut. It's irrelevant to me that you wouldn't. Comment wasn't idiotic, your entire stance on team building is what's idiotic.

Yeah that's a fuck you.

Awwww QQ muffin

Then don't respond me if it is irrelevant
 
Awwww QQ muffin

Then don't respond me if it is irrelevant
Well you're being an ass isn't irrelevant.

Fuckez vous parte deux

My point stands. You bitch about the Habs yet act like pretentious prom queens.

Oh no no no not that guy. No not him. No have to wait 30 years for the right guy!!!!

Hilarious.

Aw heck want the trilogy peaches?
 
Well you're being an ass isn't irrelevant.

Fuckez vous part deux

My point stands. You bitch about the Habs yet act like pretentious prom queens.

Oh no no no not that guy. No not him. No have to wait 30 years for the right guy!!!!

Hilarious.

Aw heck wasn't the trilogy peaches?

Okay. Now I'm insulted. Seems like you're lumping me in with Geeman and wehave.

You said enjoy the cellar because I didn't like the price. So don't cry when somebody responds to someone being an ass by being an ass.

But I'll now address the actual points because it is interesting.

I'm good with Laine at the right price.

Was actually over the moon about the dach trade but unfortunately I'm not a fan of how that and newhook turned out (though I still use the ACL excuse for Dach. 18 months min to judge). I like that type of move. Just not nemec (or Zegras) unless cheap.

I'm definitely interested in ekblad. Obviously at the right price. 2 years younger than Matheson and most importantly right handed.
 
Silent but violent?

I mean, if Hutson hasn’t surpassed Matheson he will soon. Barron and Mailloux are offence first, though neither one is guaranteed to be an NHLer in Montreal.

As of now the only dependable young defensivish-D we have is Guhle. Maybe Xhekaj will join him, he’s been improving. Also, I’d say Hutson has been adequate defensively, but that’s obviously not his role.

Really need Reinbacher to hit. No pressure…
 
Silent but violent?

I mean, if Hutson hasn’t surpassed Matheson he will soon. Barron and Mailloux are offence first, though neither one is guaranteed to be an NHLer in Montreal.

As of now the only dependable young defensivish-D we have is Guhle. Maybe Xhekaj will join him, he’s been improving. Also, I’d say Hutson has been adequate defensively, but that’s obviously not his role.

Really need Reinbacher to hit. No pressure…
Engstrom I have hopes for.
 
Okay. Now I'm insulted. Seems like you're lumping me in with Geeman and wehave.

You said enjoy the cellar because I didn't like the price. So don't cry when somebody responds to someone being an ass by being an ass.

But I'll now address the actual points because it is interesting.

I'm good with Laine at the right price.

Was actually over the moon about the dach trade but unfortunately I'm not a fan of how that and newhook turned out (though I still use the ACL excuse for Dach. 18 months min to judge). I like that type of move. Just not nemec (or Zegras) unless cheap.

I'm definitely interested in ekblad. Obviously at the right price. 2 years younger than Matheson and most importantly right handed.
See there it is again. "The right price".

We've been toiling around for 30 years because of this mentality. #1 D and first line centers you have to overpay for, no team gets them on the cheap unless they're drafted and even then it's only for 3 years now. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and break out the platinum to dine with the hot chick. The second you start with the bean counting and second guessing you will always find faults in the player. Always. Too small, skating, injuries Yada Yada Yada. Fortune favors the bold and as LCS says, this Fredo style management hasn't won shit.

If you go down at least you went down swinging. Bergevin went down swinging his final year and got fucking close but at least he had the balls to swing and swing hard.

The absolute constant bashing of talent here is absurd and makes me just want to smack people. They talk about pussy hockey well this is what it looks like. A team in complete disarray.

HuGo has this summer from me before I write them off and go on a tirade about them. The trades they made were gambles, I never liked the Newhook deal. Dach yeah I had hopes but it's clear he has a case of the Drouins now.

PLD is a shmuck but he's producing in Washington. Jiricek is immature and needs to work on skating but still worth the risk at his age. Perfection is the enemy of good, there is no perfection in sports and trying to find it in transactions is a fools errand.

There's an old expression in business, accountants make the worst entrepreneurs. I'll leave it to you to figure out why that is.
 
See there it is again. "The right price".

We've been toiling around for 30 years because of this mentality. #1 D and first line centers you have to overpay for, no team gets them on the cheap unless they're drafted and even then it's only for 3 years now. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and break out the platinum to dine with the hot chick. The second you start with the bean counting and second guessing you will always find faults in the player. Always. Too small, skating, injuries Yada Yada Yada. Fortune favors the bold and as LCS says, this Fredo style management hasn't won shit.

If you go down at least you went down swinging. Bergevin went down swinging his final year and got fucking close but at least he had the balls to swing and swing hard.

The absolute constant bashing of talent here is absurd and makes me just want to smack people. They talk about pussy hockey well this is what it looks like. A team in complete disarray.

HuGo has this summer from me before I write them off and go on a tirade about them. The trades they made were gambles, I never liked the Newhook deal. Dach yeah I had hopes but it's clear he has a case of the Drouins now.

PLD is a shmuck but he's producing in Washington. Jiricek is immature and needs to work on skating but still worth the risk at his age. Perfection is the enemy of good, there is no perfection in sports and trying to find it in transactions is a fools errand.

There's an old expression in business, accountants make the worst entrepreneurs. I'll leave it to you to figure out why that is.

Unfortunately the cap exists. So the price matters. I

think the Habs have largely done what you are saying for 30 years. And it hasn't worked.

Eg. gomez, gionta, cammy. It wasn't good enough even with young price, gally, etc.

Definitely fine with spending on a first line centre. Or paying for something that will be elite.

I'd rather pay for ekblad than trade for jiricek.

PLD is exactly what I want to avoid. 4 goals, 21 points on a team that has everything going right. No thanks. Especially not in our position.

I said Hugo has been not so great just a few days ago. So that might be the only thing we agree on.

Almost everything has been bad.

Newhook, Dach, Barron. All fails so far.

Drafting at the top has not looked good so far.
Slaf. Was looking good but not so much anymore. And could be a disaster at his cap hit.
Reinbacher. Well I think you know my thoughts there.
Demidov. I'm optimistic but he has been up and down.

Better luck later with Hage, hutson, fowler.

Suzuki and caufield have progressed nicely but not sure the credit there.
 
See there it is again. "The right price".

We've been toiling around for 30 years because of this mentality. #1 D and first line centers you have to overpay for, no team gets them on the cheap unless they're drafted and even then it's only for 3 years now. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and break out the platinum to dine with the hot chick. The second you start with the bean counting and second guessing you will always find faults in the player. Always. Too small, skating, injuries Yada Yada Yada. Fortune favors the bold and as LCS says, this Fredo style management hasn't won shit.

If you go down at least you went down swinging. Bergevin went down swinging his final year and got fucking close but at least he had the balls to swing and swing hard.

The absolute constant bashing of talent here is absurd and makes me just want to smack people. They talk about pussy hockey well this is what it looks like. A team in complete disarray.

HuGo has this summer from me before I write them off and go on a tirade about them. The trades they made were gambles, I never liked the Newhook deal. Dach yeah I had hopes but it's clear he has a case of the Drouins now.

PLD is a shmuck but he's producing in Washington. Jiricek is immature and needs to work on skating but still worth the risk at his age. Perfection is the enemy of good, there is no perfection in sports and trying to find it in transactions is a fools errand.

There's an old expression in business, accountants make the worst entrepreneurs. I'll leave it to you to figure out why that is.
The Habs have fucked up for decades making bad decisions

The rebuild needs smart decisions and not just bite the bullet and pray it works

It is about the right price or fit to build the roster

This is a hard cap world not the real world where if Habsy hires the wrong person you fire him and pay his severance and go find another guy

A business can pivot overnight , in hockey your fucked for years on the cap with limited flexibility

Hugo cant start another round of Nero moves like inking a near 30 Ekblad to stupid money in decline

Jiricek and Dach moves are fine gambles but this is year 3 of rebuild trying to fix 20 years of stupidity

Laine for 2 years is a good move as is moving vets for first round picks

Unfortunately the cap accountants rule the NHL like it or not
 
It's illogical to me. There's no silver bullet there's simply increasing your odds. This whole not that player thing is just wow.

I do believe HuGo are tanking on purpose with the lack of moves. If not it's incompetence.
Hugo is no tanking on purpose , they are dismantling while drafting and developing and adding

This was always a minimum 5 years to see any tangible results
 
I understand why everyone wants to focus on the roster and where it’s been and we’re supposed to end up before we look like we’re actually playing for keeps.

But I’m still baffled by the current lack of awareness on the ice for the entire group you can’t have what I wrote in the first paragraph if things in this paragraph don’t improve.
 
If it wasn’t for Nick Cole Guhle and Maybe Motumbo at times, we might not have 2 wins.

Like it’s historic level bad. No 30 shot game in 30.
 
It's easy to cherry pick guys. Yes there's been bad decisions, by every team. However talent is talent. If you wait for elite talent to be available at 26 you'll be watching them go elsewhere, especially when you're constantly bargain bin hunting.

Habs need top D. They need to pay to get it. If it isn't ufa then its capital.

Cap is coming off the books
 
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