Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season

[TheCountofMonteCristo]

A healthy Price and Weber would have made it hard to let the organic tank happen

we wouldn't have 20

 

[lecoqsportif]

Weber was likely on a sharp descent, but yeah… unlikely we would have been last.

 

[GrandWazoo]

To be fair, Toffoli was more of a sure fire 45 point guy who seemed to find another gear as soon as he joined us… so that may explain the return we got

Low maintenance goal scorer with a well rounded game with 3 years remaining at 4.25M, we sold him cheap. Probably a B rated trade.

 

[GrandWazoo]

A healthy Price and Weber would have made it hard to let the organic tank happen

We would have been hunting for playoff spots with healthy Price and Weber. Dreaded middle.

 

[Sal_Butera]

Low maintenance goal scorer with a well rounded game with 3 years remaining at 4.25M, we sold him cheap. Probably a B rated trade.

Lekhonen & Toffoli deals netted poor returns

 

[GrandWazoo]

Lekhonen & Toffoli deals netted poor returns

Not necessarily poor but not great either, hence a B rating. It might even get lower if Mesar, Heineman, Barron and the Colorado 2nd round pick don’t amount to anything.

 

[GEEMAN]

We would have been hunting for playoff spots with healthy Price and Weber. Dreaded middle.

fuck that

 

[GEEMAN]

Lekhonen & Toffoli deals netted poor returns

Fair returns

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

in your view, that does not mean that those of us who equally cherished those Olympic golds are wrong.

Yes it does.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

FYI no Canadiens GM has ever missed the post season 3 yrs in a row and kept his job. Now Hughes might but he would also be the first GM to manage a Canadiens' team that misses four in a row (we have not missed 4 in a row ever iirc)

That rule doesn't apply when you're actually rebuilding instead of merely pretending to rebuild for one season before going back to patching.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

Andre Savard did as did Gainey

No, those were phony rebuilds. They were never fully committed.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

No… that would actually be Frank Selke Sr, who laid the foundation for 19 Cups in 25-years including hiring Sam Pollock who was managing a minor league baseball team

If you want to get technical it was Tommy Gorman who started the rebuild that Selke later benefitted from.

 

[TheCountofMonteCristo]

That rule doesn't apply when you're actually rebuilding instead of merely pretending to rebuild for one season before going back to patching.

well back in the day your head exploded after all losses especially to the Leafs. You never once called for tank then.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

well back in the day your head exploded after all losses especially to the Leafs. You never once called for tank then.

I'm fine with them going 6-76

 

[Sal_Butera]

If you want to get technical it was Tommy Gorman who started the rebuild that Selke later benefitted from.

Not really, Habs had won back to back Cups but Gorman had the business in financial ruin - losing massive $$ (for that time period). He did stupid things like book an evangelist for months at Le Forum with less than 10 people showing up (yes staff outnumbered attendees) and forcing Habs to play on the road during peak earning period

Selke Jr was poached from Leafs to run Le Forum & GM of Habs. Selke’s primary directive was to make the Le Forum financially successful or the team would relocate

Selke spent the next 7-years rebuilding the Habs prospect pool, forcing NHL to help setup the junior hockey system to feed the league prospects and even having his org buy the Quebec Senior League so that they could grab the rights to Le Gros Bill and sign him as UFA

 

[GrandWazoo]

No, those were phony rebuilds. They were never fully committed.

Savard had us going in the right direction but didn’t get enough time. Gainey set us back big time.

 

[GGpX]

Off topic, but, can this Jesse Ylonen experiment please be put to an end? He's not an NHL player.

Waive him, send him to Laval, call up either SImoneau or Heineman.

 

[GrandWazoo]

Yeah I’m done with him too. Maybe he can rebuild his confidence in Laval, maybe. No one will claim him.

 

[lecoqsportif]

Yeah I’m done with him too. Maybe he can rebuild his confidence in Laval, maybe. No one will claim him.

When a highly polished pro like Pierre Houde loses patience with a player (during Pittsburgh broadcast )… bigly bad sign.

He never calls out specific players like that.

 

[Sal_Butera]

Savers had us going in the right direction but didn’t get enough time. Gainey set us back big time.

I dunno, 2003 draft wasn’t exactly Gainey’s fault