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Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season

Rolex said:
As Pierre Rinfret mentioned yesterday on the radio: we have 9M of cap space towards two players that don't move the needle for us (Drouin-Byron). That's an incredible amount, 9M, for what we are getting in return.
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As Habsy told me when we opted to re-sign Byron instead of trading him, we can't trade everybody.

And now we're stuck with a terrible contract instead of maybe getting a 2nd or maybe 3rd round pick.
 
Byron was obtained through waivers, has been waived twice with no claim and you think there’s a trade market for him? Maybe an argument for not resigning but trade? Good luck with that.
 
GGpX said:
Yeah, I don't think Drouin's ever going to play another game with us.

I hope he gets whatever it is that's affecting him fixed, but I don't think he'll be back as a Hab.
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I must be missing something here, how long is Drouin supposed to be out?
 
Rolex said:
As Pierre Rinfret mentioned yesterday on the radio: we have 9M of cap space towards two players that don't move the needle for us (Drouin-Byron). That's an incredible amount, 9M, for what we are getting in return.
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Exactly , way too much cap dollars on players that don't move anything but their bank accounts

We have to let many walk this summer

JD, Byron, Lek , Armia, Dano ….nearly 25% cap and your lucky to get 20 goals combined …...pathetic

Tatar is the only one I would even think of resigning

Cant have too many 3+ mil players all over our bottom 6

Time to go younger ...CC , JY , RP and cheaper to fill out the bottom 6

No issue with Lek or Armia but players in the summer can do their job for a mil
 
Habsy said:
Byron was obtained through waivers, has been waived twice with no claim and you think there’s a trade market for him? Maybe an argument for not resigning but trade? Good luck with that.
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There was easily a market for him when he was making $1M and scoring 20g a consecutive years.

We decided to re-sign him instead of trade him, which was foolish because now he's in his 30s, he's on the downside of his career and his contract sucks. He's unmovable and will probably end up getting bought out.
 
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GGpX said:
There was easily a market for him when he was making $1M and scoring 20g a consecutive years.

We decided to re-sign him instead of trade him, which was foolish because now he's in his 30s, he's on the downside of his career and his contract sucks. He's unmovable and will probably end up getting bought out.
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Nero absolutely had to sign him because ……...he was the missing piece to ??????????

We could of nabbed 2 seconds easily years ago
 
GGpX said:
There was easily a market for him when he was making $1M and scoring 20g a consecutive years.

We decided to re-sign him instead of trade him, which was foolish because now he's in his 30s, he's on the downside of his career and his contract sucks. He's unmovable and will probably end up getting bought out.
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If the Habs record with Byron in as opposed to out wasn’t so good he would not have been resigned. You can nit pick all you like, it wasn’t the worst move he made.
 
Habsy said:
If the Habs record with Byron in as opposed to out want so good he would not have been resigned. You can nit pick all you like, if want the worst move he made.
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It wasn't the worst move, but it was still terrible and entirely predictable.

Re-signing players to term & money in their late 20s/early 30s very, very rarely works out.
 
Habsy said:
If the Habs record with Byron in as opposed to out wasn’t so good he would not have been resigned. You can nit pick all you like, if want the worst move he made.
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no need to go 4 years with Byron , let another team make the mistake
 
Habsy said:
Bullshit. So easy to speculate eh?
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He was worth that back then easily and more

On the cheap , great wheels , 20 goals , PK specialist , swiss army knife on the top 9

That is gold for a team in a cap world , tremendous value around the league and he was respected
 
You guys love speaking with such certainty on very subjective topics. Makes me tune you out. You keep making assumptions like MB didn’t try to move him ever. You forget he was waived twice. It’s so easy arm chairing this crap with certainty eh?
 
If he was worth 2 seconds then he was worth a 4 years/3.4M contract, you can't have it both ways.

He had value for sure, but I though the contract at the time was too much too long. Mostly too long. Same money on a 2-3 years contract and I wouldn't mind, but also we were rebuilding at the time so the pick(s) had more value to us. Finally he's never been the same since that stupid fight, because urr-durr the code.
 
GGpX said:
It wasn't the worst move, but it was still terrible and entirely predictable.

Re-signing players to term & money in their late 20s/early 30s very, very rarely works out.
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It's the mediocre team syndrome:

mediocre teams still score hundreds of goals in a season; some mediocre player is going to get in on some of that action, their personal stats will look better than they would if they were slotted correctly on a better team; they will get paid for their inflated stats, if/when the the team gets better, the mediocre player will be move down the lineup and will be overpaid/untradeable

That's why a GM of a mediocre team must always value their players vs how hard they are to replace in the open market instead of their personal inflated stat sheet.
 
Habsy said:
You guys love speaking with such certainty on very subjective topics. Makes me tune you out. You keep making assumptions like MB didn’t try to move him ever. You forget he was waived twice. It’s so easy arm chairing this crap with certainty eh?
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Years ago when he was productive before his extension Habsy not when he is shit now

He is worthless now just like JD

GGPX and I simply didn't like the term
 
Which is fine. Plenty I dislike too. The issue is you’re making gross assumptions.

Also, GW is right, can’t have it both ways. A player worth 2 seconds is worth his contract.
 
GrandWazoo said:
If he was worth 2 seconds then he was worth a 4 years/3.4M contract, you can't have it both ways.

He had value for sure, but I though the contract at the time was too much too long. Mostly too long. Same money on a 2-3 years contract and I wouldn't mind, but also we were rebuilding at the time so the pick(s) had more value to us. Finally he's never been the same since that stupid fight, because urr-durr the code.
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Exactly my point

We aren't the Pens competing for titles and having a solid role player in a checking role with term as a complimentary piece made sense

2 years too much , on a team going nowhere
 
Paul Byron was a great bargain basement find; the lesson is to keep finding those guys (we certainly can't find stars) but not overpay the ones that work out.
 
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