Stinky
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Say that three times quickly please...
KK Signs Offer Sheet From Canes/Habs Don't Match
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Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
They're still a good team. Some think better than last year, I think a bit worse due to question marks but ultimately they're still a playoff caliber team.
Do we have until Saturday to match the KK offer ?
Some definitely are. I still believe that KK could be the better player in the long run.
I don't know if BT is worth $6.1m right now... but he's currently further along than KK. Which makes sense. He's a winger who isn't being groomed as a 2 way player.
He isnt far off from his peak and 6.1 is about right for 6+ years
Svech got 7.75 and is a hell of a player and difference maker
Hope Dorion screws this one up
If you offer sheet Tkachuk, and Ottawa has a ton of Cap space then you'd be betting on Melnyk just not being willing to write the checks. They have more than $20 million in space, so there's no way on earth you slot the contract at a point where it wouldn't come down to that. And even with Melnyk, that's just not a bet anybody wins.
If you're serious about actually prying the player away with an offer sheet then for my money it needs to be a secondary (or lower) player with upside on a team that's already got Cap pressure. Aiming for somebody's best forward (or whatever) is just going to result in the team moving heaven and earth to get the offer matched, and aiming for a player on a team with Cap space is just about guaranteed to be futile unless you over-pay to the point where the whole exercise is ridiculous.
It's a false equivalency to say that KK is better or viewed as the better player based on him receiving a QO and BT not.
A. Every team is in a different situation with their cap. Ottawa can easily match any offer.
2. We don't know if BT has received any offers and turned them down.
To say that KK is viewed as the better player because he got signed an offersheet and BT didn't would mean that he's the best unsigned RFA in the league.
A. Every team is in a different situation with their cap. Ottawa can easily match any offer.
2. We don't know if BT has received any offers and turned them down.
- Revenge. This definitely played a factor.
To say that KK is viewed as the better player because he got signed an offersheet and BT didn't would mean that he's the best unsigned RFA in the league.
Agreed but only if his offence picks up considerably
BT will be a 25-30 goal 50-60 point player for the next decade
KK will need to be at least a decent 2C in the 50 point range
Melnyck IS a cheap bastard, but are you willing to bet he's cheap enough not to match a relatively reasonable offer sheet for Tkachuk? Or are you willing to grossly over-pay for a player that has probably already shown his ceiling? I mean, for me it's a no in both cases ... and that's not even comparing to anyone, let alone KK specifically.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
He will be. D and C take longer. You know that.
You need to give him the QO for the player to be elligible to go to arbitration. Sens didnt give Duclair a QO cause they were scared how much he'd cost if he decided to go to arbitration.
You match the offer , if regime thinks he is a 50-60 point player
They are trying to do some roster juggling somewhere or they would of matched by now
GrandWazoo
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No, there is player elected arbitration and team elected arbitration. Teams can elect to take a player to arbitration no later than 2 days after the Stanley Cup final. Past that window you need to offer a QO or lose the player.
Really, the only real option if your match is to find a taker for Drouin.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
I think it's more looking for another center and also staying quiet to big KK and Carolina.
Oh, for sure. If you're matching there's no rush and you'd be dumb to show your cards if you're trying to make other deals ... or at least confirm that they'd be do-able. This thing about everybody needing to respond in detail to everything straight away is dumber than dirt. If you have time, you use it if it helps you.