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Lehkonen traded to Avs

Krustchev said:
Total BS. You’re clearly still bitter that your gal Emile didn’t get the GM gig here, aren’t you?
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Nothing to do w Emilie, both Jacobs & Dolan dumped him at first opportunity without blinking.

That’s not to say Gorton isn’t highly qualifid or most qualified for the Habs job
 
Sal_Butera said:
Nothing to do w Emilie, both Jacobs & Dolan dumped him at first opportunity without blinking.

That’s not to say Gorton isn’t highly qualified…
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And? Gorton is the guy who largely rebuilt Rags on the fly. His bona fides are solid. Doesn’t mean he’s perfect, far from it, but HuGo seems like our best upper management in 30 years maybe.
 
I like Lekky a lot but if your org cannot consistently develop these "coach's dream" types with 2nd round picks then your team is hopeless.

Barron types are usually gone in the 1st round....and we got a second rounder back as well.

No brainer.
 
CH1 said:
I like Lekky a lot but if your org cannot consistently develop these "coach's dream" types with 2nd round picks then your team is hopeless.

Barron types are usually gone in the 1st round....and we got a second rounder back as well.

No brainer.
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Hughes set his price and team got more in return
 
This what should have happened with Byron when he had a year left at $1.2M.

We also need to up Armia's value and deal him next TDL, although I like Armia better than Lehk.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Nothing to do w Emilie, both Jacobs & Dolan dumped him at first opportunity without blinking.

That’s not to say Gorton isn’t highly qualifid or most qualified for the Habs job
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Because they weren't able to push him around. They wanted a puppet.
 
CH1 said:
I like Lekky a lot but if your org cannot consistently develop these "coach's dream" types with 2nd round picks then your team is hopeless.

Barron types are usually gone in the 1st round....and we got a second rounder back as well.

No brainer.
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If every team was developing them consistently, they wouldn’t be worth first round picks+ at the deadline.
 
GrandWazoo said:
If every team was developing them consistently, they wouldn’t be worth first round picks+ at the deadline.
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Different time frames…

Avs need multiple better than average 3rd liners ASAP. Habs can wait a bit for their next Lekky.

Lekky is also worth less during the offseason when teams are confident they will be able to fill that role internally
 
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CH1 said:
Different time frames…

Avs need multiple better than average 3rd liners ASAP. Habs can wait a bit for their next Lekky.

Lekky is also worth less during the offseason when teams are confident they will be able to fill that role internally
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That’s not entirely correct, Avs like TBay, Leafs, Canes don’t get how to develop “coaches dream” type 3rd liners either which is why they consistently need to go outside the org to find them.

TBay has been the only one of the bunch that’s developed one in Gourde over last 10-years. All the other potential answers have been from outside the org, starting w Callahan & Miller…

Its just reality, those teams mentioned are simply better at finding players “who get you to the playoffs” vs “get you through the playoffs”
 
GrandWazoo said:
If every team was developing them consistently, they wouldn’t be worth first round picks+ at the deadline.
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Teams go nuts every trade deadline looking for the missing piece

Every team has holes to fill so these Lek and Goodrow types are in demand
 
Sal_Butera said:
That’s not entirely correct, Avs like TBay, Leafs, Canes don’t get how to develop “coaches dream” type 3rd liners either which is why they consistently need to go outside the org to find them.

TBay has been the only one of the bunch that’s developed one in Gourde over last 10-years. All the other potential answers have been from outside the org, starting w Callahan & Miller…

Its just reality, those teams mentioned are simply better at finding players “who get you to the playoffs” vs “get you through the playoffs”
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Cirelli is that dream class
 
Sal_Butera said:
Yet Gorton stayed in Boston and fetched coffee for Chia-pet until he was canned..
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He was also in his late 20’s at the time. No offense but you sound silly here. This is beneath you. Gorton is an accomplished hockey executive at this point. Doesn’t mean he’s perfect. No one is.
 
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CH1 said:
Different time frames…

Avs need multiple better than average 3rd liners ASAP. Habs can wait a bit for their next Lekky.

Lekky is also worth less during the offseason when teams are confident they will be able to fill that role internally
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For sure, but luxury 3rd liners are not legion either. If those guys were so common, their value would be low as there would be large supply.

For all our focus about this organization inability to develop elite talent and first round picks, starting from the mid 70s, we used to be really good at developing those great two way players.
 
GrandWazoo said:
For sure, but luxury 3rd liners are not legion either. If those guys were so common, their value would be low as there would be large supply.

For all our focus about this organization inability to develop elite talent and first round picks, starting from the mid 70s, we used to be really good at developing those great two way players.
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We’re have not been good at developing players, period. Hopefully that will change with the new management team.
 
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