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zeke said:
Trading Alberta and Sask for Cali and NY is a no brainer.
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I mean this is a different discussion than what your map proposed.

and even then, I don't really think I like it much. just based on population numbers, our say in our democracy would decline to a pretty insignificant amount. instead of quebec having the bloc, the canadian political parties would be our version of the bloc.
 
zeke said:
I honestly can't wait for this. Just make it happen already:

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California would fuck us.

Also, give them Saskatchewan.
 
zeke said:
Though you know what? The point about equalization isn't bad - Quebec gets far, far too much of that, due to decades of blackmail.
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I actually have no issue with points #2 & 3 on his list.

But the complete absurdity of demand #1 sort of overshadows them.


Wayward DP said:
I mean this is a different discussion than what your map proposed.

and even then, I don't really think I like it much. just based on population numbers, our say in our democracy would decline to a pretty insignificant amount. instead of quebec having the bloc, the canadian political parties would be our version of the bloc.
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Yep. Our population is minimal in comparison to the areas of the United States zeke would like us to merge with. It'd be less of a merger, and moreso a larger entity wholly consuming a smaller one. To use a Canadian politics example, it'd sort of be like the Reform Party/PC merger.
 
zeke said:
.222 calibre will kill you just as easy.

and the standard magazine for these guns is like 30 rounds or so, which is plenty of carnage.

but this is just a semantics argument - you guys would find a way to defend fully automatic machine guns as well, on principle.
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Ok so.

A .22 caliber round you can get a 30 round magazine 100%, got them. I assume the .222 was a misprint and Habsy meant .223 which is the standard round for the AR. Now you cannot buy a 30 round magazine for those guns, In canada the legal round magazine you can buy for those is 5. In the US I believe you can get 30’s,Not sure.

And no I think fully automatics being prohibited as they are is the right idea.
 
lecoqsportif said:
Agree. Full potato. Ridiculous.
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Alberta is going down the rabbit hole right now because Canada didn't respect their choice in the conservatives.

And the further Alberta goes into a their rage cycle, the worst shit is going to get. I can't tell if it just the knee jerk reaction, and whether things cool off once transmountain is up and running, or if this a fundamental shift to Canada not working for them and it's time to go their own way.

To me it's just noise right now, but I'm sure Canadians thought the same in the 1960s before the Parti Quebecois or the 1990s when the Bloc came on the scene. If there is a party based on separation and they start making gains then we will need to start taking them seriously and worse, this thread will be full potato all day, every day.
 
Altair said:
Alberta is going down the rabbit hole right now because Canada didn't respect their choice in the conservatives.

And the further Alberta goes into a their rage cycle, the worst shit is going to get. I can't tell if it just the knee jerk reaction, and whether things cool off once transmountain is up and running, or if this a fundamental shift to Canada not working for them and it's time to go their own way.

To me it's just noise right now, but I'm sure Canadians thought the same in the 1960s before the Parti Quebecois or the 1990s when the Bloc came on the scene. If there is a party based on separation and they start making gains then we will need to start taking them seriously and worse, this thread will be full potato all day, every day.
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Alberta is taking their ball and going home because they lost the game
 
worm said:
Alberta is taking their ball and going home because they lost the game
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+1

Alberta is not entitled to dictate energy policy to the rest of the country. But they feel that it's their right to extract as much oil as they want (regardless of how other provinces feel about their emissions controls), pipe that oil to wherever they want, charge full market rate and externalize any of the downside (spill clean up, etc).

As a former employee up in the patch I have a fair bit of sympathy for the people I worked with. O&G is still an economic necessity and the Canadian industry is important to the Canadian economy. But they have little interest in meeting the rest of the country half way. The rest of the country has little interest in meeting them half way.
 
Bringing up the environmental regulation roadblocks in 2018 for TMX were implemented by Harper sends them into a frenzy as well

Cons deny any wrong doing and point the finger at Trudeau for his lack of diligence before making the deal
 
Artnes said:
Bringing up the environmental regulation roadblocks in 2018 for TMX were implemented by Harper sends them into a frenzy as well

Cons deny any wrong doing and point the finger at Trudeau for his lack of diligence before making the deal
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Yeah, I would have a bit more sympathy if they weren't so blindly partisan about the matter. Be a single issue voter, knock yourself out. But stop falling for the bullshit that the Conservatives are champions of the industry (which the O&G execs happily parrot because they know corporate tax cuts come with CPC governments and that's good for SP) when there's no real evidence of it.

I mean, I was already told that getting rid of Notley was going to fix everything. That she was the reason the industry suffered. About that....
 
Pretending that this is about policy is silly.

They're in the right wing media bubble now so are certain that the evil childmirdering tranny libs have stolen the election.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah, I would have a bit more sympathy if they weren't so blindly partisan about the matter. Be a single issue voter, knock yourself out. But stop falling for the bullshit that the Conservatives are champions of the industry (which the O&G execs happily parrot because they know corporate tax cuts come with CPC governments and that's good for SP) when there's no real evidence of it.

I mean, I was already told that getting rid of Notley was going to fix everything. That she was the reason the industry suffered. About that....
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MindzEye said:
+1

Alberta is not entitled to dictate energy policy to the rest of the country. But they feel that it's their right to extract as much oil as they want (regardless of how other provinces feel about their emissions controls), pipe that oil to wherever they want, charge full market rate and externalize any of the downside (spill clean up, etc).

As a former employee up in the patch I have a fair bit of sympathy for the people I worked with. O&G is still an economic necessity and the Canadian industry is important to the Canadian economy. But they have little interest in meeting the rest of the country half way. The rest of the country has little interest in meeting them half way.
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everybody seems to think that a pipeline is going to fix oil in alberta and return us to a boom economy....and the only thing standing in the way is Trudeau
 
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