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LeafGm said:
What in the hell is there to "mediate"?

It's a band of alt-righter criminals who's stated goal is to overthrow Canada's elected government and system of parliamentary democracy, and replace it with an unelected Junta that they have veto power over.

Honestly, it's a national embarrassment the way Ottawa police is handling this. And how every level of government is MIA.
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and here I was hoping this would be Justin's FLQ moment... I mean there's still time, but looking bleak
 
Wayward DP said:
yeah it's kind of bonkers to me cause I am pretty sure like 75% of the country would support him taking action to remove the bozo brigade. but who the hell knows
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I am thinking Justin is trying not to give these guys what they truly want which would be a confrontation with law enforcement/military.
 
Trudeau’s calculus is how does this play out if he steps in now, either to negotiate or with some show of force.

If it’s force, then that’s it. There’s no stepping back from that. Either he has used the Canadian military to beat back an unlawful, foreign-financed insurrection, or he has turned the military against its own people. Despite what a shitshow this is, it’s probably not at that point yet. One major truck explosion in downtown Ottawa and the calculus changes.

If he chooses negotiations, then what is the end game? This protestors group is a very messy and unorganized group of actual truckers, frustrated Canadians, white supremicists, anarchists, and foreign-influenced agitators. Who are you dealing with, exactly? If they could negotiate a settlement with actual truckers, I’m sure they would have by now. But the self-proclaimed organizers are calling for an end democratic governance. You can’t negotiate with that.
 
His options aren't great. Force isn't a good look. Even the prime minister just condemning peaceful protests isn't a good look. Negotiating is insane.

Let them get bored is ideal.
 
I would be all for leaving them there except their presence is having a huge negative impact on the lives of ordinary Ottawans and the authorities are not doing a damn thing about it
 
Wayward DP said:
I would be all for leaving them there except their presence is having a huge negative impact on the lives of ordinary Ottawans and the authorities are not doing a damn thing about it
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Yeah, my sister-in-law went off on a rant on a family call last weekend going through some of the issues they've dealt with. Being called all sort of names, needing to organize a group from the block to even just go to the store, trucks passing the wrong way through their quiet one-way street at all hours, refueling on the street with a cigarette in their hands, constant smell of diesel, etc... If the protest was only down by Parliament, or even probably if they just set up a permanent camp at Confederation Park or something, it would be one thing. But when they're up and down all the residential streets, that's definitely not sustainable.
 
LeafGm said:
I think the cruelty to the woke Lib city-dwelling folk is the point, though, rather than an accidental by-product of the protest.
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Yep. 100% agreed. If it was really about freedom, you wouldn't be screaming obscenities or harrassment at people just going to work or wearing masks. Much like most of the shit we saw with the Trumpers, the cruelty is the point.
 
I would have said they are revelling in the public performative assholery that has consumed right wing politics.

But those two pieces of shit who tried to light up the elevator lobby changed the calculus. The fact they haven’t been turned over or IDed by the organizers says a lot about the calibre of people we’re dealing with.
 
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