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Altair said:
According to CTV, liberals to role out a national pharmacare plan tomorrow.
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Good. They need to be razor focused on good policy between now and the election. Pharmacare done remotely well is good policy. Of note is that the CPC, when asked for their position on pharmacare by the CPA last year, declined to provide a response, but to them it's probably "big government" or the "nanny state" but it'll be popular so they'll do the same thing they did with legalized ganj. Equivocate as much as possible and hope the questions go away without pissing off a chunk of the electorate.

This is why I think the Liberals win the next election, they've just got too much good potential policy in the bag to roll out. The CPC has "Trudeau is a clown", "pipelines for everyone", and little else.
 
MindzEye said:
Good. They need to be razor focused on good policy between now and the election. Pharmacare done remotely well is good policy. Of note is that the CPC, when asked for their position on pharmacare by the CPA last year, declined to provide a response, but to them it's probably "big government" or the "nanny state" but it'll be popular so they'll do the same thing they did with legalized ganj. Equivocate as much as possible and hope the questions go away without pissing off a chunk of the electorate.

This is why I think the Liberals win the next election, they've just got too much good potential policy in the bag to roll out. The CPC has "Trudeau is a clown", "pipelines for everyone", and little else.
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sadly policy seems to matter less and less these days. not that I don't agree with you though.
 
So kind of a Meh budget, but a big note for first time home buyers making less than 120 000 in household income.

First time home buyers still need the 5 percent down payment, but the government will partner with a equity stake of 10 percent for a new home and 5 percent for a resale.

Will apply to homes up to 400 000,so up to 40 thousand for a new home.

Pretty big. And it will cost the government nothing because while the money is interest free, they get their share back when the home is resold, meaning that most likely their share will have risen in value.

Smart vote buy to be honest, time to cash out my RRSP I think.
 
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kel...o-anything-but-let-their-colleagues-speak-why

Even as the story of former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould and her treatment by the prime minister lumbers through its second month, they continue to insist there is nothing to discuss. The supposed non-story has divided the caucus, turned Liberals on Liberals, sent Justin Trudeau’s reputation tumbling and dominated every news cycle, with no hint the prime minister comprehends what he’s unleashed.

Pollster Darrell Bricker says Canadians are following the affair closely. Liberals have dropped 10 points since it broke, he says, with particularly precipitous declines in vote-rich Ontario and Quebec. CBC’s poll tracker indicates Trudeau’s “personal brand” has taken an even bigger hit, seriously reducing his status as an election asset. Surveys consistently find Canadians believe Wilson-Raybould’s version of the dispute over the prime minister’s. Foreign headlines that used to gush over Trudeau now soberly track his fall.
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PM Scheer y'all
 
Altair said:
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kel...o-anything-but-let-their-colleagues-speak-why



PM Scheer y'all
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Even with the Liberal stumbles, I'd be really surprised if Scheer could pull off a majority win.

Unless the NDP and/or the Bloc has a real resurgence, a minority Liberal or CPC government seems more likely.

We'll also have to see how much support Bernier pulls away, and how much Scheer has to pander to the whack-a-doo Western hard-right anti immigration types to fend Bernier off.
 
LeafGm said:
Even with the Liberal stumbles, I'd be really surprised if Scheer could pull off a majority win.

Unless the NDP and/or the Bloc has a real resurgence, a minority Liberal or CPC government seems more likely.

We'll also have to see how much support Bernier pulls away, and how much Scheer has to pander to the whack-a-doo Western hard-right anti immigration types to fend Bernier off.
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Every poll has bernier at 2 percent or less and that will drop off when right wingers see scheer as a ticket to get trudeau out of office. That protest vote was a option when it seemed like trudeau was going to sail into a second term, with the CPC leading in the polls, I don't think anyone expects the PPC support to hold up.

Long time to go before election day, but seeing as how this has not gone away yet, with JWR still having a bone to pick, as well as Jane Philpott, I can see a CPC minority. Can't see trudeau surviving that.
 
Altair said:
Every poll has bernier at 2 percent or less and that will drop off when right wingers see scheer as a ticket to get trudeau out of office. That protest vote was a option when it seemed like trudeau was going to sail into a second term, with the CPC leading in the polls, I don't think anyone expects the PPC support to hold up.

Long time to go before election day, but seeing as how this has not gone away yet, with JWR still having a bone to pick, as well as Jane Philpott, I can see a CPC minority. Can't see trudeau surviving that.
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Added to those two still keeping the issue alive is the CEO of SNC Lavalin stating that at no time did he indicate there would be many job losses or that the company would move it’s headquarters out of Canada.
 
Altair said:
Every poll has bernier at 2 percent or less and that will drop off when right wingers see scheer as a ticket to get trudeau out of office. That protest vote was a option when it seemed like trudeau was going to sail into a second term, with the CPC leading in the polls, I don't think anyone expects the PPC support to hold up.

Long time to go before election day, but seeing as how this has not gone away yet, with JWR still having a bone to pick, as well as Jane Philpott, I can see a CPC minority. Can't see trudeau surviving that.
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Probably a fair point. Bernier's party could be in for a pretty ugly inaugural showing if Conservative voters sense that voting CPC gives them a real opportunity to give Trudeau the boot.

Still, I stand by my prediction. Even though Trudeau's handled this as badly as he possibly could have, I don't think the SNC-Lavelin affair will be a big enough deal to enough voters to deliver Scheer to the PM chair only one election cycle after Harper got the boot after a decade in power.

Still, it really would be nice if Trudeau would fall on his sword and the Liberal leadership passed on to someone more qualified. His personal brand was really the only thing he had going for him, and that's probably more of a liability than an asset at this point. I mean, what the hell would the CPC's election strategy be if they didn't have Trudeau to run against?
 
LeafGm said:
Probably a fair point. Bernier's party could be in for a pretty ugly inaugural showing if Conservative voters sense that voting CPC gives them a real opportunity to give Trudeau the boot.

Still, I stand by my prediction. Even though Trudeau's handled this as badly as he possibly could have, I don't think the SNC-Lavelin affair will be a big enough deal to enough voters to deliver Scheer to the PM chair only one election cycle after Harper got the boot after a decade in power.

Still, it really would be nice if Trudeau would fall on his sword and the Liberal leadership passed on to someone more qualified. His personal brand was really the only thing he had going for him, and that's probably more of a liability than an asset at this point. I mean, what the hell would the CPC's election strategy be if they didn't have Trudeau to run against?
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If trudeau resigned today, they would shift the matter to say that the party is corrupt. The entire PMO, the current cabinet, ect.

Paul Martin didn't go down in flames because he was corrupt, he went down in flames because of the perception the prime minister he took over from was corrupt.
 
MindzEye said:
According to recent polling, the SNC issue is important to voters but isnt shifting voters.
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There's also more and more stories coming out that are starting to question the current strategies of JWR and JP. At a certain point, them keeping trying to keep this in the news might backfire as it could turn it from a "corrupt PMO" to a "disgruntled cabinet member" narrative.
 
MindzEye said:
According to recent polling, the SNC issue is important to voters but isnt shifting voters.
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According to poll tracker

The Conservatives have led in the polls for the last month, moving ahead of the dropping Liberals as the SNC-Lavalin affair takes its toll on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's support. The Conservative lead is not wide enough, however, to give the party a high likelihood of winning a majority government. The New Democrats trail in third, having regained some of the support lost over the last few months, while the Greens hit new polling highs since the last election.
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trend will be interesting. if this is peak lavalingate sentiment, it doesn't look good for the cons. might be the start of a trend though.
 
Looks like the Liberal strategy of trying to turn public opinion against Wilson-Raybould, and attribute pure motives to Trudeau's cabinet shuffle continues.

The latest thing to dribble out is that Trudeau and JWR clashed on who should be appointed to replace retiring Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Beverley McLaughlin.

The Liberals needed to do two things---one was pick a bilingual judge from Northern or Western Canada to fill the vacant seat on the court. And then they also needed to appoint a new Chief Justice. Apparently JWC's suggestion was that they do both at once by appointing a conservative judge from Manitoba as the newest member of the court & also name him Chief Justice.

Trudeau then overruled her because the judge in question has a history of speaking out against the "judicial activism" of the current court, and of their practice of using the Charter of Rights & Freedoms to "constitutionalize" political issues like same-sex marriage, abortion rights & doctor assisted dying.
 
JWR and Philpott clearly have their own agenda, which seems to involve destroying Trudeau.

I'm surprised they are still in caucus at this point. Don't know how much more public undermining Trudeau and co will put up with...
 
Wayward DP said:
JWR and Philpott clearly have their own agenda, which seems to involve destroying Trudeau.

I'm surprised they are still in caucus at this point. Don't know how much more public undermining Trudeau and co will put up with...
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Because they won't leave on their own, they will need to be pushed out, which makes Trudeau look even worst.

Feminist PM kicking out two former female cabinet ministers because they don't like him? Optics... Very bad.
 
They may have but JWR was quick to say that she acknowledges that the choice is always up to the PM.

The judge is very annoyed that the journalist had not contacted him for comment. Because of his wife’s cancer he had withdrawn his name from consideration.
 
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