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Canada's not in a great spot tbh. I probably like Trudeau more than most but he has made some catastrophic errors.
 
Preston said:
Canada's not in a great spot tbh. I probably like Trudeau more than most but he has made some catastrophic errors.
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can you elaborate? legit curious cause I've just seen the charts showing our recovery beating all other G7 nations that are not America, same with inflation.

but admittedly I've been paying more attention to american politics than canadian recently
 
also, I wonder how far into the CPC the Russian ties/influence extend. that could be a big potential vulnerability for PP.
 
Preston said:
Canada's not in a great spot tbh. I probably like Trudeau more than most but he has made some catastrophic errors.
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I did vote for Trudeau everytime in the past, but immigration has been a disaster since COVID. We simply do not have the ability to increase our population with our medicare system as it is, and housing situation. And why is unemployment so high with it? I thought the purpose was to fill jobs?
It's a shame because Immigration was always an overall strong success in Canada for generations. Now you look at polls and people in this country has turned on the entire idea because it's been handled so poorly past 4 years.
Canada, long before Trudeau always had an obsession to increase the population, but the regression of various programs goes against that idea.
 
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Wayward DP said:
can you elaborate? legit curious cause I've just seen the charts showing our recovery beating all other G7 nations that are not America, same with inflation.

but admittedly I've been paying more attention to american politics than canadian recently
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New Canadian Politics Thread

https://x.com/andrew_leach/status/1828534213202846168
www.forumice.com

I think this from ME just about covers it. But yes with regards to recovering from the crazy inflation, Canada has done quite well but one could argue that's largely in part due to a weakening economy, which is why we've led the way in slashing rates rapidly. There is high risk that many in Canada could be in big trouble if we don't.
 
JackBurton said:
Many don't want to touch this, and I did vote for Trudeau everytime in the past, but immigration has been a disaster since COVID. We simply do not have the ability to increase our population with our medicare system as it is, and housing situation. And why is unemployment so high with it? I thought the purpose was to fill jobs?
It's a shame because Immigration was always an overall strong success in Canada for generations. Now you look at polls and people in this country has turned on the entire idea because it's been handled so poorly past 4 years.
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Immigration is great and I welcome it because we need it to grow our economy. But it's about who you bring in, not just spamming big numbers and hoping for the best. The US, by contrast, has done this very well.
 
Preston said:
Immigration is great and I welcome it because we need it to grow our economy. But it's about who you bring in, not just spamming big numbers and hoping for the best. The US, by contrast, has done this very well.
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I agree 100%. And immigration has been great for vast majority of Canada's history. But post COVID it's been really bad. Just a disorganized mess. It isn't serving the purpose it was supposed to.
 
We need to find ways to have high skill, highly educated people come to Canada and have a path to practice what they did before... mainly in health care.

It couldn't be that hard to review the medical standards around the globe (or specifically from certain countries) and then design an unskill program here. Have the program be free but require them to work in family medicine in certain locations for a period of time (like we do with CBSA).

Pros for the immagrats:
Fast tracked immigration, free up skilling and a set job when finished.

Pros for the country: more family docs, especially in under served communities.
 
The funny thing is i've come to believe that lowering unemployment is kind of an election loser.

If you're talking about a 1% change in unemployment that really doesn't effect a lot of people.

Meanwhile, price change effect EVERYBODY, making them a massively more important issue.
 
An eye-opening experience for me recently was when I happened to pop into a dollar store near my work on the day they were accepting in-person applications for a part-time job.

There was a tightly-packed lineup of south Asian kids that stretched from the back office at the rear of the store all the way out the front door and down the sidewalk. Easily at least 100+ people, all applying for the same part-time job at the fuckin’ Dollar Store.

Something is definitely broken.
 
I had 4 (Yes 4 and all not together) international students drop off their resumes at the Booster Juice I was at last weekend during maybe 5-10 minutes there. I have people begging me for a job that can't pay their bills that are new immigrants. I am also seeing more newly arrived immigrants begging at major intersections I use to never see ( like Oakville and down the street from me in Pickering). It use to be mostly drunk white guys begging.

The sad reality (And I have great insight into this being in recruitment) is that many people overseas are told a lot of B.s about what great opportunities you have in Canada and find great disappointment here. It is also hard to get someone a job if their English skills aren't strong. I am fine with that thinking, as an Anglophone from Quebec after what I've been though, I do understand that as long as it's not being too picky.

I'm not sure our business community is on the same page as our government. Hence the "Canadian experience" rule put into place to fight it that clearly will never work (You'd have to be an idiot not to be able to figure out if someone has Canadian experience without actually asking).

Often we think of limiting immigration as an opinion of opposing it altogether. Truth is we also owe it to individuals to come here and have the best chance at success. I feel bad what I am seeing. And now Canadians have a bad view of immigration like never before.
 
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New Canadian Politics Thread

https://x.com/andrew_leach/status/1828534213202846168
www.forumice.com

I think this from ME just about covers it. But yes with regards to recovering from the crazy inflation, Canada has done quite well but one could argue that's largely in part due to a weakening economy, which is why we've led the way in slashing rates rapidly. There is high risk that many in Canada could be in big trouble if we don't.
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okay yah this is nothing new or surprising then.

they've bungled housing.

they've bungled immigration, particularly the TFW program.

bungled international students.

fair criticisms.
 
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