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it’s all so dumb. Most raw materials into Canada can be sourced from elsewhere with minimal interruption, and the government has a relief process for anything that can’t. Meanwhile, this is going to force mfg’s hands to diversify their supply chains outside of the United States, who for the first in 110 years can’t be trusted on trade.

All that this is going to do in the long run is create a bunch of inconvenience and waste, raise prices in the US (if tariffs persist) and cost US jobs.
 
mbow30 said:
it’s all so dumb. Most raw materials into Canada can be sourced from elsewhere with minimal interruption, and the government has a relief process for anything that can’t. Meanwhile, this is going to force mfg’s hands to diversify their supply chains outside of the United States, who for the first in 110 years can’t be trusted on trade.

All that this is going to do in the long run is create a bunch of inconvenience and waste, raise prices in the US (if tariffs persist) and cost US jobs.
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Most of our imports from the states are things like speciality machinery that have competition in other advanced manufacturing nations. Nuclear equipment, industrial equipment, etc. It would take a while to unwind supply chains and re establish new ones, but it is doable without too much headache from an economic standpoint.

What they buy from us though? Oil at ~8% markdown, industrial metals that would cost more to import from elsewhere (China and Russia are really the only other major exporters who could fill their needs)...fucking aluminum. The analysis I've heard is that the US would have to build 8 nuclear power plants to generate enough electricity to smelt the amount of aluminum that they get from Quebec. There is no potash exporter that can replace Canada for US farming. Russia & Belarus (#2 & 3 exporters) combined could barely do it and again there's that whole pesky bit about transportation costs increasing your prices. All they're doing is raising the cost of farming inputs for no fucking reason.

Having our biggest customer right next to us is easy and efficient. It makes business really easy for us. Simple supply chains, low shipping costs, etc. Great for everyone. Having to work a lot harder to flesh out new customers internationally would be a long and difficult process but, eventually we would arrive at more or less the same place we are right now economically, but with a much more resilient export economy. The Americans simply can't replace us without paying significantly more for everything.
 
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zeke said:
eh sure looks to me like we have a newly motivated new customer demo internationally that shouldn't require a long and difficult process to flesh out.
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Yeah, agreed generally. Still takes time and costs money to build out logistics. Small annoyance given the circumstances, not a major challenge.
 
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