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No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

Scoring Paces (with EV+PP TOI)

Matthews 20:16, 72gls/111pts
Marner 19:13, 32gls/103pts
Nylander 18:57, 41gls/99pts

Tavares 17:53, 28gls/66pts
Domi 13:46, 9gls/48pts
Bertuzzi 16:04, 22gls/45pts

Robertson 11:18, 21gls/40pts
Knies 13:28, 16gls/37pts
McMann 11:05, 22gls/35pts

Jarnkrok 13:45, 16gls/33pts
Holmberg 10:35, 10gls/25pts
Dewar 9:29, 13gls/19pts

Kampf 11:03, 9gls/18pts
Gregor 10:17, 7gls/15pts
Reaves 8:04, 5gls/9pts



Rielly 23:11, 8gls/66pts
Liljegren 18:38, 5gls/36pts

McCabe 18:29, 9gls/32pts
Timmins 15:55, 3gls/31pts

Brodie 19:00, 0gls/27pts
Giordano 14:18, 6gls/16pts

Edmundson 15:00, 2gls/10pts
Lyubushkin 14:25, 0gls/9pts
Benoit 15:41, 1gls/7pts
 
Compared to last year (italics means they weren't in the playoffs starting lineup)

This time i'll list them in order of EV+PP TOI:

22/23 ---> 23/24

Matthews 20:14, 44gls/94pts ---> Matthews 20:16, 72gls/111pts
Marner 18:59, 31gls/102pts ---> Marner 19:13, 32gls/103pts
Nylander 18:19, 40gls/87pts ---> Nylander 18:57, 41gls/99pts

Tavares 17:39, 37gls/82pts ---> Tavares 17:53, 28gls/66pts
O'Reilly 16:19, 25gls/46pts ---> Bertuzzi 16:04, 22gls/45pts
Bunting 15:48, 23gls/49pts ---> Domi 13:46, 9gls/48pts

Kerfoot 12:59, 10gls/32pts ---> Jarnkrok 13:45, 16gls/33pts
Knies 13:06, 0gls/27pts ---> Knies 13:28, 16gls/37pts
Lafferty 12:55, 14gls/32pts ---> Robertson 11:18, 21gls/40pts

Jarnkrok 12:47, 23gls/44pts ---> McMann 11:05, 22gls/35pts
Kampf 12:40, 7gls/27pts ---> Kampf 11:03, 9gls/18pts
Acciari 12:37, 15gls/25pts ---> Holmberg 10:35, 10gls/25pts

Robertson 10:51, 11gls/27pts ---> Gregor 10:17, 7gls/15pts
Holmberg 10:18, 11gls/29pts ---> Dewar 9:29, 13gls/19pts
ZAR 10:05, 11gls/15pts ---> Reaves 8:04, 5gls/9pts


Rielly 20:44, 5gls/52pts ---> Rielly 23:11, 8gls/66pts
Brodie 18:16, 3gls/20pts ---> Brodie 19:00, 0gls/27pts

Gustafsson 19:36, 7gls/49pts ---> Liljegren 18:38, 5gls/36pts
McCabe 17:30, 3gls/27pts ---> McCabe 18:29, 9gls/32pts

Holl 17:10, 2gls/19pts ---> Timmins 15:55, 3gls/31pts
Giordano 16:40, 4gls/25pts ---> Benoit 15:41, 1gls/7pts

Liljegren 16:28, 7gls/22pts ---> Edmundson 15:00, 2gls/10pts
Timmins 15:00, 6gls/43pts ---> Giordano 14:18, 6gls/16pts
Schenn 14:45, 5gls/26pts ---> Lyubushkin 14:25, 0gls/9pts

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so the question is, obviously, how much offensive depth this year is going to be italicized by Keefe in favor of guys with zero offense?
 
zeke said:
Compared to last year (italics means they weren't in the playoffs starting lineup)

This time i'll list them in order of EV+PP TOI:

22/23 ---> 23/24

Matthews 20:14, 44gls/94pts ---> Matthews 20:16, 72gls/111pts
Marner 18:59, 31gls/102pts ---> Marner 19:13, 32gls/103pts
Nylander 18:19, 40gls/87pts ---> Nylander 18:57, 41gls/99pts

Tavares 17:39, 37gls/82pts ---> Tavares 17:53, 28gls/66pts
O'Reilly 16:19, 25gls/46pts ---> Bertuzzi 16:04, 22gls/45pts
Bunting 15:48, 23gls/49pts ---> Domi 13:46, 9gls/48pts

Kerfoot 12:59, 10gls/32pts ---> Jarnkrok 13:45, 16gls/33pts
Knies 13:06, 0gls/27pts ---> Knies 13:28, 16gls/37pts
Lafferty 12:55, 14gls/32pts ---> Robertson 11:18, 21gls/40pts

Jarnkrok 12:47, 23gls/44pts ---> McMann 11:05, 22gls/35pts
Kampf 12:40, 7gls/27pts ---> Kampf 11:03, 9gls/18pts
Acciari 12:37, 15gls/25pts ---> Holmberg 10:35, 10gls/25pts

Robertson 10:51, 11gls/27pts ---> Gregor 10:17, 7gls/15pts
Holmberg 10:18, 11gls/29pts ---> Dewar 9:29, 13gls/19pts
ZAR 10:05, 11gls/15pts ---> Reaves 8:04, 5gls/9pts


Rielly 20:44, 5gls/52pts ---> Rielly 23:11, 8gls/66pts
Brodie 18:16, 3gls/20pts ---> Brodie 19:00, 0gls/27pts

Gustafsson 19:36, 7gls/49pts ---> Liljegren 18:38, 5gls/36pts
McCabe 17:30, 3gls/27pts ---> McCabe 18:29, 9gls/32pts

Holl 17:10, 2gls/19pts ---> Timmins 15:55, 3gls/31pts
Giordano 16:40, 4gls/25pts ---> Benoit 15:41, 1gls/7pts

Liljegren 16:28, 7gls/22pts ---> Edmundson 15:00, 2gls/10pts
Timmins 15:00, 6gls/43pts ---> Giordano 14:18, 6gls/16pts
Schenn 14:45, 5gls/26pts ---> Lyubushkin 14:25, 0gls/9pts

​

so the question is, obviously, how much offensive depth this year is going to be italicized by Keefe in favor of guys with zero offense?
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What’s funny is that keefe makes decisions to put in guys like boosh over, say, timmins because he’s scared that Timmins will make mistakes that will lead to goals, despite the fact that boosh makes way more mistakes that leads to goals than timmins.
 
Guys like Baboonskin and Edmundstunk bring absolutely NOTHING other than supposed physicality. And what is the trade off for some meaningless cross-checks and pushes? I've yet to see any thunderous open ice hit or something, so what the fuck is this added value they're supposedly bringing that we don't see the others already provide? They literally do every other thing worse than the guys who are sitting for them. How the Baboon is such a favorite of Keefe's after he already had him once and he was utter shit, that he had to get him back, and is again utter shit, is fucking beyond comprehension.

I am starting to wonder if we, as non-pro's, maybe just don't get it. Matty jizzing himself over that Reaves fight last week and then talking to the media about how important he is to the team...I mean, that wasn't lip service. We saw his reaction to the fight in real time, so he really thinks that. And if a 70 goal scorer, maybe the greatest goal scorer in NHL history, thinks it's a good thing to have seemingly trash players like Reaves and Baboon on the roster, I have to question whether the hockey guys are too close to it and are fucking insane, or if we just don't know shit because we don't live it like they are. It's one or the other.
 
I also really like Knies up with JT and Nylander again. I hope Robbie Boy sticks with some combo of Mcmann and Jarnkrok/holmberg
 
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