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No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

Lebrun in today's Athletic:

Leafs and Tavares extension talks​

The Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares’ camp, led by veteran agent Pat Brisson, have had contract discussions.

Obviously, the delicate dance here is finding a sweet spot on what a pay cut looks like from Tavares’ current $11 million AAV.

They’re not there yet, but the dialogue will continue. There’s mutual interest in continuing the relationship. Tavares is raising his family in his hometown and doesn’t want to go anywhere. But I don’t think there’s any rush to get something done, either, especially from the team’s perspective. Obviously, the Leafs have other important files, led by pending UFA Mitch Marner.
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But that's just it, do you sign him to something stupid like 7.0 x 4 now?

If John's side was offering a ridiculous discount, I don't think Treliving would be able to help himself. John's team is probably looking at that Stamkos deal, the one Pavelski signed with Dallas (7.0x3, and at a lower cap number a few years back) as benchmarks for what 35-38 yr old Tavares is worth.

I would much, much rather spend that kind of money elsewhere.
 
Don’t mind cowen going down - he needed to earn a spot and he just didn’t - or the max pac signing, but sabotaging your fourth line like they are and giving Lilly a $3m contract only to press box him is infuriating. Some solace though in berubes history of favouring skill.
 
Opening Day Lineup Changes...


Bertuzzi --> Pacioretty
Jarnkrok --> Robertson
Minten --> Holmberg
Gregor --> Lorentz

Brodie --> Tanev
Klingberg --> OEL
Giordano --> Benoit
Liljegren --> Timmins

Samsonov --> Woll

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Actually a pretty huge change but a bunch of it is just due to injuries / lineup choices. Holmberg was in the lineup by game 5. Jarnkrok would be in the lineup if healthy now. Lilly could easily be in for Timmins. Woll could have started game 1 last year too. etc.

and we have no idea what Berube's actually preferred lineup is yet at this point.


Real actual changes:

Bertuzzi --> Pacioretty
Gregor --> Lorentz / Dewar

Brodie --> Tanev
Klingberg --> OEL
Giordano --> Benoit / Hakanpaa

Samsonov --> Stolarz

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probably best to do a comp to actual minutes played....

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23-24 TOI ---> 24-25

Matthews 1698 ---> Matthews
Marner 1468 ---> Marner
Nylander 1633 ---> Nylander
Tavares 1429 ---> Tavares

Bertuzzi 1284 ---> Pacioretty
Domi 1103 ---> Domi
Knies 1094 ---> Knies
Kampf 1052 ---> Kampf

Jarnkrok 793 ---> Jarnkrok
Gregor 718 ---> Lorentz
McMann 647 ---> McMann
Robertson 637 ---> Robertson

Holmberg 625 ---> Holmberg
Reaves 397 ---> Reaves
Dewar 219 ---> Dewar
Minten 45 ---> Minten



Rielly 1709 ---> Rielly
Brodie 1694 ---> Tanev
McCabe 1508 ---> McCabe
Benoit 1103 ---> Benoit

Liljegren 1081 ---> Liljegren
Giordano 764 ---> OEL
Lagesson 435 ---> Hakanpaa
Timmins 400 ---> TImmins

Lyubushkin 324 ---> Myers
Klingberg 287 ---> Niemela
Edmundson 160 ---> Rifai



Samsonov 40gs ---> Stolarz
Woll 23gs ---> Woll
Jones 19gs ---> Murray/Hildeby
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but that's not really accurate either. the trade deadline guys actually replaced other guys.

so really it's more like

Bertuzzi ---> Pacioretty
Gregor/Dewar ---> Lorentz (Dewar?)

Brodie/Eddy ---> Tanev
Gio/Boosh ---> OEL
Klingberg/Benoit ---> Benoit

Samsonov ---> Stolarz
Jones ---> Murray
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something like that.
 
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