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OT: American Politics

I posted it not as some conclusive proof on the matter, but just to show it's a daily thing over here and generally people view the situation very negatively on many fronts. These types of individual articles and reports come out literally every day. LA is not viewed the way it used to be by the people and businesses that are here.

I mean, the issues in particular with this DA are epic and pretty unprecedented as far as I'm aware. He's changed LA for the worse in a big way and I'm not sure when they're finally going to get him out of there.
 
Every time anyone anywhere in the US suggests a different way than prison with football numbers attached as a method of managing crime, everyone freaks the fuck out. It's like the one thing that doesn't actually work is the only solution anyone finds morally appropriate.
 
For sure, it's much better to get rid of bail, reduce sentences for violent crimes, allow criminals to get right back on the streets after committing crimes, to effectively make it lawful to shoplift, to turn a blind eye to enforcement. These are all such great ideas that surely will result in better outcomes than being tough on crime. They've ushered in an era of routine home invasions, carjackings, muggings in the street in broad daylight, rapes, murders. It's an awesome experiment, just an approach that probably needs a little time to simmer while people settle into the new normal.

https://www.newsweek.com/california-district-attorney-recalls-george-gascon-pamela-price-1846768

Earlier this month, the institute noted new FBI crime data showing that, as of 2022, California's violent crime rate was 31 percent higher than the U.S. average. "This divergence is driven largely by aggravated assaults, which have been declining nationwide while rising in California," the institute said.
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https://www.ttownmedia.com/news/sta...cle_4ebe75d0-9cb4-5a08-a283-769a3b9266a0.html

While LAPD did not respond to a public records request on updated crime data by the time of publication as the department adopts a new crime reporting system, a LAPD public information officer told The Center Square there were 438 gunshot victims and homicides are up 11%, robberies up 17.6%, motor vehicle theft up 5.2%, and burglaries up 2.4% year-over-year for January 1 through June 1 of 2024 compared to 2023.

“Murders in LA are increasing while falling throughout the country, robberies are up significantly. Gun violence is a huge problem in LA and not charging gun enhancements, and not prosecuting juvenile gun murderers is the wrong policy,” said Nathan Hochman, a former federal prosecutor running against Gascon in the November election, to The Center Square.
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It's working out great, just great.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
For sure, it's much better to get rid of bail
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Much better to have a system that enforces detention immediately after arrest with no trial eh?

LeafOfFaith said:
reduce sentences for violent crimes
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Football numbers haven't been helping. I mean, if your starting point in the conversation isn't "fuck me we've been doing this all wrong for generations and need to fix the system", then you're warped.

LeafOfFaith said:
allow criminals to get right back on the streets after committing crimes
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That's uhhh...their constitutional right mate. You know, innocent until proven guilty by a jury of their peers, etc. Pre trial detention is only suppose to happen if they're a threat to public safety. It's not supposed to the defacto position of the system for all crimes. Bail was meant to be a mechanism for ensuring that they show up for trial, not one to ensure that poor people who get arrested remain detained until their trial.

LeafOfFaith said:
to effectively make it lawful to shoplift
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for minors, yeah. You've got a choice to make. You can continue to put 17 yr olds in jail for shoplifting and have them come out of Con College a member of a major gang (yeah, that is indeed a thing. Forced gang membership along racial lines is basically how people survive the California prison system) and deeply connected to the criminal underworld in the state or you can let some dumb shit slide and tackle it other ways.

Again. The way y'all have been doing shit for decades is straight up broken. It's creating worse crime outcomes in the medium to long term and is monstrously expensive. It's a broken system from nose to tail.

LeafOfFaith said:
These are all such great ideas that surely will result in better outcomes than being tough on crime.
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Except they do. Everywhere in the world that alternative methods are used, better results are seen.


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Poverty rates are also up by 10-15%. It's almost like there is a connection in there or something.
 

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hockeylover said:
If the Dems are actually going to try to make a change they have to actually find their balls and scream loudly about Trump at every opportunity. They simply have never come at Trump as hard as they should be. It has to be part of the conversation every single day til November. You can’t let a replacement just be another Dem held to a way higher standard by the media every single day. NYT is just going to pivot to 75476 “is Kamala too shrill!?” articles while the Dems play defense.
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But Biden is old, that is the real threat according to the media.
 
This joke kinda fits in this thread I think.


A man was being tailgated by a stressed out woman on a busy boulevard, when suddenly, the light turned yellow, just in front of him. He did the right thing and stopped, even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.
The tailgating woman hit the roof, and the horn, screaming in frustration as she missed her chance to get through the intersection.

As she was still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up into the face of a very serious police officer. The officer ordered her to exit her car with her hands up. He took her to the police station where she was searched, finger printed, photographed, and placed in a holding cell.

After several hours, a policeman approached the cell and opened the door. She was escorted back to the booking desk where the arresting officer was waiting with her personal effects.

He said, I'm very sorry for this mistake. You see, I pulled up behind your car while you were blowing your horn, flipping off the guy in front of you, and cussing a blue streak at him. I noticed the 'Choose Life' license plate, the 'What Would Jesus Do?' bumper sticker, the 'Follow Me to Sunday-School' bumper sticker, and the chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk.

Naturally, I assumed you had stolen the car.
 
axlsalinger said:
Unbelievably, this is not the Onion, but an actual real "newspaper".


View: https://x.com/DougJBalloon/status/1809716689807822954?t=cqMhcXIZ1vbNjwm_tMRlWg&s=19
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Exactly what the guy I tweeted earlier was saying. The media will scream about the need for Biden to drop out, and the day after he does the knives will be out for whoever replaces him. It's an unserious industry full of unserious people trying to jump from one scandal to the next with as little lag between the two for the sake of selling advertisement.
 
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