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OT: American Politics

FlyGuy said:
Glad we had Biden to unify us (lol) and return us to norms (of trying to assassinate political opponents? Or throwing political opponents in jail?)
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my God you live in a complete fantasy world. I guess there's no way to get through to you as the damage has been done. All we can do is try to educate, by showing you facts that aren't real (just like birds!) because reality doesn't exist I guess. Joe Biden has always been in the center of the political spectrum, (despite the loons claiming he's some kind of socialist commie), and got a lot done through bipartisan cooperation (as much as can be done in these hyper-partisan times).

as for your other absurd claims, despite his obvious youthful vigor Joe Biden is not a 20 year old kid and didn't try to assassinate anybody. And the former president was charged with multiple crimes because he spent the last 8 years on a crime spree.
 
axlsalinger said:
my God you live in a complete fantasy world. I guess there's no way to get through to you as the damage has been done. All we can do is try to educate, by showing you facts that aren't real (just like birds!) because reality doesn't exist I guess. Joe Biden has always been in the center of the political spectrum, (despite the loons claiming he's some kind of socialist commie), and got a lot done through bipartisan cooperation (as much as can be done in these hyper-partisan times).

as for your other absurd claims, despite his obvious youthful vigor Joe Biden is not a 20 year old kid and didn't try to assassinate anybody. And the former president was charged with multiple crimes because he spent the last 8 years on a crime spree.
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I am curious how you can wish someone well and a good recovery and denounce violence when you were just calling the person "literally Hitler" who wants to "end democracy". You either don't wish them well, or you were FOS.

Curious how that works.
 
FlyGuy said:
I am curious how you can wish someone well and a good recovery and denounce violence when you were just calling the person "literally Hitler" who wants to "end democracy". You either don't wish them well, or you were FOS.

Curious how that works.
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Also, the reason why people say that Trump wants to "end democracy" is because at the end of his last term, he tried for months to overturn the results of the election, and eventually attempted to overthrow the government of the United States. Downplay January 6 all you want in this fantasy world of yours, but in reality that is exactly what fucking happened.

Obviously if he did it once, he's almost certain to try and do it again, having learned some lessons about what didn't work the last time. And of course will replace anybody who might say "that's illegal" or "we can't do that" with "Yes Mr Trump."
 
hockeylover said:
wtf does joe biden have to do with a 20 year old conservative kid shooting donald trump?
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Because these muppets will forever warp everything that happens in the world into their deeply uninformed, conspiratorial worldview.

When the report on this comes out and it shows that:

- The USSS identified the location in their pre event site visit, but didn't have the manpower to secure every location themselves, so they put it on a list along with, by my count, at least a dozen other locations outside of the 100 yard perimeter, but within ~300 yards where a shot could plausibly be taken from by any relatively well trained shooter.

- Local/State police were short staffed because Saturday afternoon in the summer, and provided what they could but you can't make more police appear out of thing air even if overtime is offered so not all locations could be permanently guarded.

- Overwatch had a partially obscured sight line to the shooting location, making suspect identification harder until they had moved over to the west side of the roof

- When the overwatch sniper did identify the target, USSS protocol required confirmation from the ground team before engaging unless shots have been fired.


The report is going to be mostly boring, with established protocol or manpower circumstance explaining a lot of the things being currently questioned. There will likely be some human error elements in there as well that will be turned into a fresh round of conspiracy theories because Joe Biden and Josh Shapiro conspired to...do something that completely ignores that it was a local kid known to be conservative and not some antifa loon.
 
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FlyGuy said:
I am curious how you can wish someone well and a good recovery and denounce violence when you were just calling the person "literally Hitler" who wants to "end democracy". You either don't wish them well, or you were FOS.

Curious how that works.
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It's much more humiliating to see Trump destroyed in the election, and then face the consequences of his action in courts until he rots for the rest of his miserable life in jail.
 
MindzEye said:
Because these muppets will forever warp everything that happens in the world into their deeply uninformed, conspiratorial worldview.

When the report on this comes out and it shows that:

- The USSS identified the location in their pre event site visit, but didn't have the manpower to secure every location themselves, so they put it on a list along with, by my count, at least a dozen other locations outside of the 100 yard perimeter, but within ~300 yards where a shot could plausibly be taken from by any relatively well trained shooter.

- Local/State police were short staffed because Saturday afternoon in the summer, and provided what they could but you can't make more police appear out of thing air even if overtime is offered so not all locations could be permanently guarded.

- Overwatch had a partially obscured sight line to the shooting location, making suspect identification harder until they had moved over to the west side of the roof

- When the overwatch sniper did identify the target, USSS protocol required confirmation from the ground team before engaging unless shots have been fired.

They're all going to lose their fucking minds and it's going to be proof somehow that Biden, I don't fucking know, jedi mind tricked some conservative kid from Pennsylvannia into shooting at Donald.


The report is going to be mostly boring, with established protocol or manpower circumstance explaining a lot of the things being currently questioned. There will likely be some human error elements in there as well that will be turned into a fresh round of conspiracy theories because Joe Biden and Josh Shapiro conspired to...do something that completely ignores that it was a local kid known to be conservative and not some antifa loon.
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Biden defunded the police! And/or diversity hires courtesy of Biden!
 
axlsalinger said:
Also, the reason why people say that Trump wants to "end democracy" is because at the end of his last term, he tried for months to overturn the results of the election, and eventually attempted to overthrow the government of the United States. Downplay January 6 all you want in this fantasy world of yours, but in reality that is exactly what fucking happened.

Obviously if he did it once, he's almost certain to try and do it again, having learned some lessons about what didn't work the last time. And of course will replace anybody who might say "that's illegal" or "we can't do that" with "Yes Mr Trump."
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And the democrats that wargamed ad nauseum for that election I'm sure were going to go silent in the night, just like in 2016 where they claimed it was an illegitimate election due to "russian meddling".

www.dailysignal.com

How Democrats Attempted a 2016 Electoral College Coup

Democrat activists and Hollywood tried to pressure electors to void the November election and appoint someone other than Donald Trump.
www.dailysignal.com www.dailysignal.com

"The younger Pelosi led a letter signed by 53 other electors—including one rogue Republican from Texas—addressed to the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, requesting the intelligence community provide a briefing on Russian interference for the full Electoral College before it convened in 50 state capitols.

“We do not understand our sole function [to be] to convene in mid-December, several weeks after Election Day, and summarily cast our votes,” said the letter. “To the contrary, the Constitution envisions the Electoral College as a deliberative body that plays a critical role in our system of government—ensuring that the American people elect a president who is constitutionally qualified and fit to serve.”"

Hmm sounds a lot like what Trump was calling for in 2020.
 
MindzEye said:
Because these muppets will forever warp everything that happens in the world into their deeply uninformed, conspiratorial worldview.

When the report on this comes out and it shows that:

- The USSS identified the location in their pre event site visit, but didn't have the manpower to secure every location themselves, so they put it on a list along with, by my count, at least a dozen other locations outside of the 100 yard perimeter, but within ~300 yards where a shot could plausibly be taken from by any relatively well trained shooter.

- Local/State police were short staffed because Saturday afternoon in the summer, and provided what they could but you can't make more police appear out of thing air even if overtime is offered so not all locations could be permanently guarded.

- Overwatch had a partially obscured sight line to the shooting location, making suspect identification harder until they had moved over to the west side of the roof

- When the overwatch sniper did identify the target, USSS protocol required confirmation from the ground team before engaging unless shots have been fired.

They're all going to lose their fucking minds and it's going to be proof somehow that Biden, I don't fucking know, jedi mind tricked some conservative kid from Pennsylvannia into shooting at Donald.


The report is going to be mostly boring, with established protocol or manpower circumstance explaining a lot of the things being currently questioned. There will likely be some human error elements in there as well that will be turned into a fresh round of conspiracy theories because Joe Biden and Josh Shapiro conspired to...do something that completely ignores that it was a local kid known to be conservative and not some antifa loon.
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Joking about jedi mind tricks like MK Ultra isn't well documented is pretty funny.
 
FlyGuy said:
Joking about jedi mind tricks like MK Ultra isn't well documented is pretty funny.
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Obviously, one top secret program that ran in the 50s and 60s proves that all conspiracy theories are true!!!!!!!

(PS. MK Ultra actually proves our point, not yours. Ended in 1973, became public knowledge in 1975. The truth almost always comes out in the end).
 
FlyGuy said:
And the democrats that wargamed ad nauseum for that election I'm sure were going to go silent in the night, just like in 2016 where they claimed it was an illegitimate election due to "russian meddling".

www.dailysignal.com

How Democrats Attempted a 2016 Electoral College Coup

Democrat activists and Hollywood tried to pressure electors to void the November election and appoint someone other than Donald Trump.
www.dailysignal.com www.dailysignal.com

"The younger Pelosi led a letter signed by 53 other electors—including one rogue Republican from Texas—addressed to the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, requesting the intelligence community provide a briefing on Russian interference for the full Electoral College before it convened in 50 state capitols.

“We do not understand our sole function [to be] to convene in mid-December, several weeks after Election Day, and summarily cast our votes,” said the letter. “To the contrary, the Constitution envisions the Electoral College as a deliberative body that plays a critical role in our system of government—ensuring that the American people elect a president who is constitutionally qualified and fit to serve.”"

Hmm sounds a lot like what Trump was calling for in 2020.
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FlyGuy said:
I am curious how you can wish someone well and a good recovery and denounce violence when you were just calling the person "literally Hitler" who wants to "end democracy". You either don't wish them well, or you were FOS.

Curious how that works.
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please tell me when you have several hours free, and I can attempt to explain to you how this concept called "rule of law" works.

your posts indicate you clearly do not understand, and understanding this is pretty fundamental to all the discussions that take place on this board.

but also, since I have some understanding of what you refer to as 'facts', many hours will be required because we're gonna have to drill down really, really deep.

in fact, should probably make a whole course out of it, with some readings before the discussion. but unfortunately without this fundamental baseline knowledge, I suspect you will continue to find current events extremely confusing, as per your post above.
 
axlsalinger said:
Also, the reason why people say that Trump wants to "end democracy" is because at the end of his last term, he tried for months to overturn the results of the election, and eventually attempted to overthrow the government of the United States. Downplay January 6 all you want in this fantasy world of yours, but in reality that is exactly what fucking happened.

Obviously if he did it once, he's almost certain to try and do it again, having learned some lessons about what didn't work the last time. And of course will replace anybody who might say "that's illegal" or "we can't do that" with "Yes Mr Trump."
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I mean he is, in advance, promising not to accept the results of the 2024 election.
 
MindzEye said:
Because these muppets will forever warp everything that happens in the world into their deeply uninformed, conspiratorial worldview.

When the report on this comes out and it shows that:

- The USSS identified the location in their pre event site visit, but didn't have the manpower to secure every location themselves, so they put it on a list along with, by my count, at least a dozen other locations outside of the 100 yard perimeter, but within ~300 yards where a shot could plausibly be taken from by any relatively well trained shooter.

- Local/State police were short staffed because Saturday afternoon in the summer, and provided what they could but you can't make more police appear out of thing air even if overtime is offered so not all locations could be permanently guarded.

- Overwatch had a partially obscured sight line to the shooting location, making suspect identification harder until they had moved over to the west side of the roof

- When the overwatch sniper did identify the target, USSS protocol required confirmation from the ground team before engaging unless shots have been fired.


The report is going to be mostly boring, with established protocol or manpower circumstance explaining a lot of the things being currently questioned. There will likely be some human error elements in there as well that will be turned into a fresh round of conspiracy theories because Joe Biden and Josh Shapiro conspired to...do something that completely ignores that it was a local kid known to be conservative and not some antifa loon.
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sounds like DEEP STATTE CONASPIRACYYYY to me
 
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