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OT: Movies/TV Shows

Yeah that's a good episode for Last of Us. I thought it was a gimmick to start but it paid off by the end.

Though I'm not agreeing with any Nick Offerman for Emmy calls.

And....

...I sure hope Joel took more guns and ammo from the bunker than it looks like he did.


....pretty damn funny that they suckered in the macho wannabe prepper types only to make him gay. I think they probably lost a bunch of viewers with that WOKENESS.
 
zeke said:
And....

...I sure hope Joel took more guns and ammo from the bunker than it looks like he did.


....pretty damn funny that they suckered in the macho wannabe prepper types only to make him gay. I think they probably lost a bunch of viewers with that WOKENESS.
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He said he liked the first two but can't wait for MAGA brother's review of this episode...
 
MapleLeafBlueJayBoy said:


I really dislike this man and his plans seem like a big bowl of steaming shit.
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Thing is, most of DC's characters are junk. One of the reasons Marvel was able to pull seemingly random characters out of their asses and turn them into good franchises was that the characters are just significantly better, less cheesy than DC B listers. Iron Man/War Machine, Guardians, Loki, Falcon, Bucky, Cpt Marvel...all 2nd or 3rd tier Marvel properties that someone at Marvel Studies decided would be good to build a property around, and we haven't even touched the mutants yet, which is like 1/3rd of Marvel's roster.

So yeah, that sounds all sounds less than interesting, but it was always going to be 2nd best to the MCU.
 
I mean, MCU characters are often crazy and weird too. A lot of the characters listed there aren't any lower tier than the Guardians of the Galaxy. And frankly, even someone like Ironman wasn't any more known outside of cult circles than some of the DC cast.

But yeah, there's nothing in that preview that actually gets me excited for anything. I don't know what exactly would, to be fair. Honestly at some level they probably should have just taken the Arrowverse as the basis and just been like "yeah, we're going to focus on tv/streaming series and then will branch out to some occasional films." Maybe that's what they're doing, but I almost feel like in the modern world people more want lots of limited series rather than just a bunch of movies.
 
UWHabs said:
I mean, MCU characters are often crazy and weird too.
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It's not that they're not crazy and weird, it's comic book stuff so that's shit is a given. It's that they're created to be interesting characters (both in comics and in film). Even the characters that are meant as direct or indirect rip offs of DC characters (Thanos, Sentry, Gladiator) are written with weakness and character depth in mind. Take Thanos & Darkseid as an example. Thanos was a big bad with actual nuanced reasons for wanting to snap half of existence out. Once he achieved that he became a fucking farmer. The DC character he is a near direct rip off of, Darkseid, is a big bad who wants what all big bad tropes wants. Ultimate power, to rule over all, crush all who oppose him, yadda yadda.

One is an interesting character that you can actually do things with (like have him sacrifice a daughter he legitimately loves to serve what he sees as the greater good....lookey, real emotional conflict and character building) another is an end point on a heroes journey that can only be made cool to watch because he's fucking OP. In the end he's nothing but a way to show us how strong superman is when he "let's go" or whatever they would have done to have supes beat him if they actually made the right movie.

DC leans heavy heavy on good over evil tropes. Marvel does nuance.
 
MindzEye said:
It's not that they're not crazy and weird, it's comic book stuff so that's shit is a given. It's that they're created to be interesting characters (both in comics and in film). Even the characters that are meant as direct or indirect rip offs of DC characters (Thanos, Sentry, Gladiator) are written with weakness and character depth in mind. Take Thanos & Darkseid as an example. Thanos was a big bad with actual nuanced reasons for wanting to snap half of existence out. Once he achieved that he became a fucking farmer. The DC character he is a near direct rip off of, Darkseid, is a big bad who wants what all big bad tropes wants. Ultimate power, to rule over all, crush all who oppose him, yadda yadda.

One is an interesting character that you can actually do things with (like have him sacrifice a daughter he legitimately loves to serve what he sees as the greater good....lookey, real emotional conflict and character building) another is an end point on a heroes journey that can only be made cool to watch because he's fucking OP. In the end he's nothing but a way to show us how strong superman is when he "let's go" or whatever they would have done to have supes beat him if they actually made the right movie.

DC leans heavy heavy on good over evil tropes. Marvel does nuance.
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To be fair, weren’t Thanos’s motivations in the actual comics a lot sillier than in the MCU? I remember reading somewhere that in the comics, he wanted to end half of all life in the universe because he was in love with some goddess of death and wanted to impress her.
 
As for Gunn’s plans for the DCU, I’m willing to reserve judgment. Coming up with an improvement over the Snyder-verse is quite a low bar to jump over.
 
LeafGm said:
To be fair, weren’t Thanos’s motivations in the actual comics a lot sillier than in the MCU? I remember reading somewhere that in the comics, he wanted to end half of all life in the universe because he was in love with some goddess of death and wanted to impress her.
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Chicks, man. Make you do crazy things.
 
LeafGm said:
As for Gunn’s plans for the DCU, I’m willing to reserve judgment. Coming up with an improvement over the Snyder-verse is quite a low bar to jump over.
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I’m reserving too but am not expecting anything good, with the majority of the projects announced slotting solidly into the shitty category. Give the DCU to Nolan.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I’m reserving too but am not expecting anything good, with the majority of the projects announced slotting solidly into the shitty category. Give the DCU to Nolan.
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I love Nolan and what he did with his Batman movies (well, the first two), but DC needs to get away from the whole “dark and gritty” motif Nolan kicked off with his Batman movies, and then that Snyder ended up doing a shitty impression of for all the rest of the DCU movies.

It’s a fine balance, because it’s easy to veer too far in the direction of making it campy and ridiculous. But Superman movies shouldn’t be a dark, depressing funeral dirge shot exclusively in muted tones of dark blue & grey.
 
LeafGm said:
To be fair, weren’t Thanos’s motivations in the actual comics a lot sillier than in the MCU? I remember reading somewhere that in the comics, he wanted to end half of all life in the universe because he was in love with some goddess of death and wanted to impress her.
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Yes, but even that is a decent enough departure from the baddie needing to conquer the universe trope we've seen thousands of times. Also of note is that he defeats himself in the comics by continuously making mistakes because deep down he knew he wasn't worthy.

The MCU upgraded his motivation for the movies, which was easy enough because he was already a character with some complexity in the comics
 
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