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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Colbert's CBS show has the most viewers of any late night show on television. Whatever he's doing is working like a mo-fo. His ratings don't show any signs of him being handcuffed by expectations. He is meeting and exceeding those expectations. If he was as edgy on CBS as he was on Comedy Central his show would have been canceled years ago. The audience that watches CBS is not the same one that watches Comedy Central. For one thing, it's a shit-ton bigger than the Comedy Central audience. It's also older and whiter and slightly less liberal. His show is tailored to that audience and it's working.
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Not really sure if you're arguing with me or just adding some thoughts. But if it's the former - I didn't say anything about ratings or appealing to the masses. I'm just saying he's not nearly as funny since he moved to the Late Show. Jay Leno used to be the ratings king of Late Night and I found him to be the lamest, least funny show of the bunch.
 
Yeah I was about to post that nobody is arguing whether his show is working with the masses. The masses like to watch a lot of shit. But he’s totally unfunny now and he looks like he knows it and is suffering inside.
 
WellPlayed said:
I'm with LOF.
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WellPlayed said:
I'm with LOF. On Colbert Report he had a manic, hilarious energy that he just doesn't have anymore. Character or not he's capable of bringing that. I listened to him on a podcast a year or two ago and it was like he was unleashed. So quick and absolutely hilarious.

But he's let the Late Show and all the expectations that come with it handcuff him. Format is too rigid, too much history, too many expectations on how a host needs to approach late night.
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He also leveraged that energy to be ballsy and subversive and all of that is gone now too.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Yeah I was about to post that nobody is arguing whether his show is working with the masses. The masses like to watch a lot of shit. But he’s totally unfunny now and he looks like he knows it and is suffering inside.
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Suffering all the way to the bank.

As for the masses, well, I guess that's how "Everybody Loves Raymond" was a consistent #1 sitcom even though I knew of no one who actually loved or even liked Raymond. Someone was watching it, just no one I know.
 
zeke said:
So on the heels of the cast hilariously absolutely shredding this movie in their press tour, the movie is of course now getting shredded by reviewers spectacularly.

But like wtf - how does a writing duo responsible for this streak still get 10s of millions of dollars invested in their scripts?


View: https://x.com/mavericksmovies/status/1757470456058458198?s=20
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Anyone with a functioning brain stem should be able to tell that all those movies are garbage just from the titles. Actually watching any of them shouldn't be necessary. Hollywood is not a serious place for art. All they do is make stuff that will take up space on a platform. It's just miscellaneous "content" now, not films. Not artistic expressions at all, simply commodities.
 
zeke said:
So on the heels of the cast hilariously absolutely shredding this movie in their press tour, the movie is of course now getting shredded by reviewers spectacularly.
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Btw, where did you see this? I searched but didn't come up with anything.
 
WellPlayed said:
I'm with LOF. On Colbert Report he had a manic, hilarious energy that he just doesn't have anymore. Character or not he's capable of bringing that. I listened to him on a podcast a year or two ago and it was like he was unleashed. So quick and absolutely hilarious.

But he's let the Late Show and all the expectations that come with it handcuff him. Format is too rigid, too much history, too many expectations on how a host needs to approach late night.
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He hasn't let the format do shit... That was never him. He was playing a character that was nothing like the real him... Or anyone who has ever done a late night talk show. I loved the Colbert Report... It was one of the best shows on TV and far, far, far better than his version of The Late Show. He didn't change though, that was never him. Saying that it was the pressure of the show that handcuffed him is ridiculous... His real personality was not handcuffed... It's just far different from the character he played.
 
Habspatrol said:
He hasn't let the format do shit... That was never him. He was playing a character that was nothing like the real him... Or anyone who has ever done a late night talk show. I loved the Colbert Report... It was one of the best shows on TV and far, far, far better than his version of The Late Show. He didn't change though, that was never him. Saying that it was the pressure of the show that handcuffed him is ridiculous... His real personality was not handcuffed... It's just far different from the character he played.
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Dude quit acting like we somehow don't understand he was playing a character. I'm not saying his "personality" is handcuffed. I'm saying the comedic performances he is capable of is handcuffed by the format. He's been funnier in literally everything I've ever seen him do that is not the Late Show.
 
Habspatrol said:
He hasn't let the format do shit... That was never him. He was playing a character that was nothing like the real him... Or anyone who has ever done a late night talk show. I loved the Colbert Report... It was one of the best shows on TV and far, far, far better than his version of The Late Show. He didn't change though, that was never him. Saying that it was the pressure of the show that handcuffed him is ridiculous... His real personality was not handcuffed... It's just far different from the character he played.
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I'd like him to play the character of energetic, witty, funny host on Late Night then.
 
WellPlayed said:
Dude quit acting like we somehow don't understand he was playing a character. I'm not saying his "personality" is handcuffed. I'm saying the comedic performances he is capable of is handcuffed by the format. He's been funnier in literally everything I've ever seen him do that is not the Late Show.
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I'm not acting like anything. You're saying that he doesn't have the same energy as a character he played. I truly believe that if his character was name Joseph Colbair, nobody would have expected him to be anything like that on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

I thought that character was an all time great and I'd have loved that show to continue rather than him going to the Late Show with his "real" personality. That said, the show has gotten a lot better... But it will never be as entertaining as the character he used to play.
 
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