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Religious Liberty and Equality

Over the past few decades the United States has engaged in a great struggle to balance civil rights and religious liberty.

On the one hand, there is a growing consensus that straight, gay and lesbian people deserve full equality with each other. We are to be judged by how we love, not by whom we love. If denying gays and lesbians their full civil rights and dignity is not wrong, then nothing is wrong. Gays and lesbians should not only be permitted to marry and live as they want, but be honored for doing so.

At their best, Americans have always believed that people should have the widest possible latitude to exercise their faith as they see fit or not exercise any faith. While there are many bigots, there are also many wise and deeply humane people whose most deeply held religious beliefs contain heterosexual definitions of marriage.

At its best, the gay rights movement has promoted its cause while carefully respecting religious liberty and the traditional pillars of American society. The cause has focused on marriage and military service. It has not staged a frontal assault on the exercise of faith.

The 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which was supported by Senator Ted Kennedy and a wide posse of progressives, sidestepped the abstract and polarizing theological argument. It focused on the concrete facts of specific cases. The act basically holds that government sometimes has to infringe on religious freedom in order to pursue equality and other goods, but, when it does, it should have a compelling reason and should infringe in the least intrusive way possible.
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If the opponents of that law were arguing that the Indiana statute tightens the federal standards a notch too far, that would be compelling. But that’s not the argument the opponents are making.
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It’s always easier to take an absolutist position. But, in a clash of values like the one between religious pluralism and equality, that absolutism is neither pragmatic, virtuous nor true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/opinion/david-brooks-religious-liberty-and-equality.html?_r=1
 
Well....as discussed before, Africa is not important for the West....well, there's the oil and diamond business, but it's pennies compared to their interests in Europe/Middle East

The other thing here is that Christians have to start acting like real victims here (instead of not caring)....

Example: something happens to Muslim or Jewish people or their holy places, and the whole community worldwide revolts and it's all over the news plastered on CNN/Fox/BBC etc.

Christians being burned in African churches....and no one cares. Maybe it's also on the Christians to wake up and make waves about it, and cry victims just like the other communities do on a routine basis.
 
Rolex said:
Well....as discussed before, Africa is not important for the West....well, there's the oil and diamond business, but it's pennies compared to their interests in Europe/Middle East

The other thing here is that Christians have to start acting like real victims here (instead of not caring)....

Example: something happens to Muslim or Jewish people or their holy places, and the whole community worldwide revolts and it's all over the news plastered on CNN/Fox/BBC etc.

Christians being burned in African churches....and no one cares. Maybe it's also on the Christians to wake up and make waves about it, and cry victims just like the other communities do on a routine basis.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/africa/kenya-university-attack/index.html

70 killed at a UNIVERSITY.
 
Rolex said:
Well....as discussed before, Africa is not important for the West....well, there's the oil and diamond business, but it's pennies compared to their interests in Europe/Middle East

The other thing here is that Christians have to start acting like real victims here (instead of not caring)....

Example: something happens to Muslim or Jewish people or their holy places, and the whole community worldwide revolts and it's all over the news plastered on CNN/Fox/BBC etc.

Christians being burned in African churches....and no one cares. Maybe it's also on the Christians to wake up and make waves about it, and cry victims just like the other communities do on a routine basis.
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Well said Rolex!
 
Natanz will be the only nuclear facility that would be functionaly.

Arak will stop producing plutonium

Fordo also will be not functional.
 
Obama for first time live on National TV in Iran LOLLL!
 

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xposbrad said:
Islamic Terrorist group Al Shishkabob target and kill Christians in Kenya:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/04/02/garissa-attack-kenya/

Notice the 0 protests in the states over this one...
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Nobody in America cares about what goes on in other countries. A lot of them couldn't find Africa on a map. Besides which, the Christians being persecuted in Kenya aren't white so they don't count. Racism and the religious right go hand in hand.
 
This is a fuked up deal for Iran, With only Natanz functional, Iran can't even provide enough uranium for the Boushehr reactor and have to import from other countries. This is regime accomplishment after 15 years of saying: "Nuclear energy is our right".
 
Habs-25 said:
This is a fuked up deal for Iran, With only Natanz functional, Iran can't even provide enough uranium for the Boushehr reactor and have to import from other countries. This is regime accomplishment after 15 years of saying: "Nuclear energy is our right".
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Why would they ever want to go nuclear NG/COAL >>> Nuclear

Fossil fuels make way more sense especially with commodities crashing in prices
 
xposbrad said:
Why would they ever want to go nuclear NG/COAL >>> Nuclear

Fossil fuels make way more sense especially with commodities crashing in prices
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This is not a good deal for government of Iran neither people, with this deal things get worse for people and make regime stronger than before at least!
 
These idiots were yelling at Friday prayers in Iran for years : Nuclear Energy is our right and they gave up everything so easy! I don't know to laugh or cry! Zarif talking in front of reporter like he did something special, even a 18 years old teenage could do better than him and he is one of so called brightest guy in this regime!
 
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These idiots were yelling at Friday prayers in Iran for years : Nuclear Energy is our right and they gave up everything so easy! I don't know to laugh or cry! Zarif talking in front of reporter like he did something special, even a 18 years old teenage could do better than him and he is one of so called brightest guy in this regime!
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They may not have had too much bargaining power. He is just spinning it as best he can. Important question is what does Nat think?
 
XPOFAN said:
They may not have had too much bargaining power. He is just spinning it as best he can. Important question is what doe Nat think?
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This is nate and the rest right now LOL
 

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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Nobody in America cares about what goes on in other countries. A lot of them couldn't find Africa on a map. Besides which, the Christians being persecuted in Kenya aren't white so they don't count. Racism and the religious right go hand in hand.
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well it is a small country all tucked away down there
 
Rolex said:
Well....as discussed before, Africa is not important for the West....well, there's the oil and diamond business, but it's pennies compared to their interests in Europe/Middle East

The other thing here is that Christians have to start acting like real victims here (instead of not caring)....

Example: something happens to Muslim or Jewish people or their holy places, and the whole community worldwide revolts and it's all over the news plastered on CNN/Fox/BBC etc.

Christians being burned in African churches....and no one cares. Maybe it's also on the Christians to wake up and make waves about it, and cry victims just like the other communities do on a routine basis.
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The West has gone to lengths avoiding parallels of any kind of holy war. There are Christians groups that have spoken out against Christian prosecution overseas, but it seems to end there. Anyway, this isn't the only atrocity taking place that western leader's aren't doing much on, the persecution of women and gays also continues largely unchallenged.
 
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