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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
The new baseball stadium could no more have a deficit than a man could have a baby.
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If I were the new owner and was in charge of getting a stadium built, I'd bring in workers from outside Quebec to do it and cut the syndicats out completely. You might need to call in the army to prevent disruptions to the construction schedule and put up with some bloody clashes in the streets but it's cheaper than allowing the usual suspects to get the contract and then take twice as long as scheduled to build a sub-standard structure that will be unsafe to use years before it's paid off.
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The only way it ever gets built on budget and with no problems is with foreign workers, outside of the province, but 0 chance that happens. Can you imagine the OQLF and all the unions here protesting that? They protested the new hospital because there was too much english. I am not fkng joking, they really did:

http://globalnews.ca/news/1894718/c...-officials-say-too-much-english-on-work-site/
 
The ill prepared argument has been repeated enough that even the strong minded like you believe it. No one was going NDP until they won in Alberta, then all of a sudden they surged up. Maybe we need a good four years of NDP rule to make people remember that voting Liberal usually was a good thing and that the country did well under Liberal governments. Hell, we had what, ten straight surpluses under the Liberals and then we have had seven straight deficits under the good fiscal manager aka Harper.

I wish Trudeau would attack more than he does, he sits back taking the high road which is great in principle but the others aren't going to play the same game. It is funny though, you blame the Liberals for picking Trudeau when really there wasn't another good candidate running but don't blame your own party for the attack ads which are driving the voters to the beard. It doesn't matter who the Liberals pick as leader, the Conservatives attack machine goes into full gear and destroys what credibility said leader might have.

Harper's goal in this election is not so much to win but to make sure the Liberals do not win.
 
no seriously David, I cannot count the times Justin has put his snowboard in his mouth. Thats what is costing him and the Libs. The 'ill prepared' tag is sticking for good reason.
 
As much as I hate the libtards, I hate the NDP so much more. They are way too far left to properly manage this country. No matter what we are screwed. NDP minority, or majority, is going to be a disaster. If it's a battle of the garbage, Trudeau or Mulcair, I'll take Mulcair's leadership but Trudeau's stance on the economy but unfortunately neither will run this country the way it needs to be. The carbon tax is going to really mess this country up along with a bunch of other anti business ideas Mulcrap has.
 
Trudeau lost the election the minute he got into bed with Harper on C-51. That cynical calculation on his part proved to anyone who was still undecided that despite the fresh face they're still the same old arrogant Liberals who presume to know what's best for everyone. There was no reasonable argument to be made for siding with the Tories on C-51. None. The Grits blew it. They have only themselves to blame.
 
As a biased liberal, I'll give my spin on trudeau's performance.

For a rookie leader, think he did quite well. He couldn't afford to be marginalized and concede the ABC role to mulcair. I don't think he did enough to win this election but I sure think he didn't lose it tonight. He was aggressive, which should help counter some of those ads saying he's a lightweight airhead. He wasn't overwhelmed by the three other very experienced opponents which was my main worry.

He wasn't able to give much specifics when it came to his plan, but I don't think any of the leaders did too much of that. He tried too hard to speak over others, which tends to be annoying. I understand that he needed to be very involved but it still got to me and the wife a bit. His arms were going g crazy, but between mulcair crazy eyes and harpers non smile, I'll call that a wash.

All told, a positive night for the liberals. I just hope that justin trudeau is playing the long game in the sense that he doesn't just resign ig he doesn't win the election. He looks like he's going to be able to just about triple his parties seat count to 90 something from the mid 30s in what looks like a upcoming minority parliament. He will hold the balance of power nobody who wins the minority and he can then hone his skills a bit. Seeing as this will probably be harpers last election he will have a bit of experience going up against a rookie CPC leader whenever the minority goverment falls. I think that counts as success when you consider the LPC was on its deathbed after the 2011 election results.

He reminds me a bit of Stephen Harper in the sense that he didn't win his first two elections but stuck it out until the Canadian public wasn't terrified of him anymore. If trudeau plays the long game and sticks it out I believe that within the next two minority parliaments we are likely to have that he will have positioned himself well.
 
rouah said:
People rightfully associate Liberals with fraud. Still sticking even 15 years after the scandals.
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lol...get real...not many people care about 15 years ago. new scandals (ie Duffy and other senators) have replaced the old ones.
 
CH1 said:
lol...get real...not many people care about 15 years ago. new scandals (ie Duffy and other senators) have replaced the old ones.
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Yup. How many Liberal MPs are still around from back then? It didn't come up once in the debate, and I doubt it will get any mention in the campaign (except maybe if the NDP gets desperate, since I doubt Harper will mention it lest everyone throws back all the Duffy scandals). Definitely old news by now.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
I'm not convinced they will win in the end, but who knows. I suspect Harper and his Henchmen will pull out a minority. He will then prorogue parliament everytime he thinks he will lose a vote.
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When the NDP wins in Alberta.....throw away everything you think you know about canadian politics
 
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