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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

LeafOfFaith said:
I thought I remembered hearing it crossed provinces.
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It kinda sorta links up with the trans canada...sorta...and I think that's where people thinking that comes from. Yonge St kind of turns into Lakeshore here in Barrie, which turns into Blake (if you ignore the 3 streets you need to be on shortly to get there)....which turns into another road, which meets up with highway 11....which meets up with the trans canada.

Barrie rejigged their waterfront a few years back, it used to be a bit more direct but it was never really a single continuous road to reach the transcanada.
 
MindzEye said:
Super serial.

Yonge street is the longest street in the world. Starts wherever the fuck it starts in Toronto at the lake (Queens Quay?) and ends at Burton ave in Barrie.
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isn't hwy 11 considered to be part of Yonge St? and that's how it achieves longest in the world status?
 
Wayward DP said:
isn't hwy 11 considered to be part of Yonge St? and that's how it achieves longest in the world status?
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Apparently just being 80+ km long is enough to make it the longest in the world. Because it's not part of highway 11 through Barrie. Yonge St just straight up ends in south barrie, and highway 11 doesn't start again until outside of Barrie to the north where it splits from the 400 extension and it heads north to Orillia.
 
Pizzaiolo is the only pizza chain worth eating… though the quality is unsurprisingly not in the same league as North of Brooklyn types.
 
GEEMAN said:
anyone have an opinion on the NBA potential for Olivier Rioux heading to the Florida Gators
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No.

He's yuuuge though. Make's Edey look like 7'4 of little bitch.

Going to be interesting to see if these mega monsters can hack it in the NBA though.
 
Interesting question though....here's the peak single season BPM for other modern NBA giants (with age in brackets)

7'9
Rioux: NA

7'7
Muresan: 1.6 (24)
Bol: 1.1 (24)

7'6
Shawn Bradley: 2.6 (30)
Yao Ming: 5.0 (26)

7'4
Wemby: 5.2 (20)
Eaton: 1.2 (28)
Sampson: 0.9 (23)
Boban: 4.3 (27)
Rik Smits: 2.2 (27)
Edey: NA


That's everyone that was 7'4 and above who actually carved out a career. There's another handful of guys who played a couple games or stuck around the league for a few years deeeep on the bench, but that's it.

A quick takeaway from look at the career stats here is that they were super variable for almost everyone. Their BPM would swing pretty wildly compared to other players. Which might be the increased difficulty in staying truly healthy and game ready at that size. So much easier for a little nagging injury to take some of your already limited mobility away and make you a big pylon.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfI3MJED8WM

TLDR:

- Very hard to build a draft board this year. Hard to predict who is going to drop to 19. Potential for a lot of volatility.
- The overall uncertainty affected who they could get to come work out for them. When agents are having mid lottery teams request workouts of their players, they don't want to also work them out for teams later in the 1st.
- Have no problem picking someone they didn't get to work out & interview
- Are expecting a lot of interest in the 31st overall pick, but are "leaning towards" keeping it.
- NIL rules are changing the landscape of the NBA draft. Expects players to start staying in the NCAA longer, and scouting them to include more time and information with more mature prospects arriving in the NBA than we've been used to.
- More concerned about the "big picture" than someone who can help them immediately.
- Called NCAA and Euroball basically a "different sport" than how the NBA game is played. Hardest part of player evaluation is figuring out what translates and what doesn't.
 
Interesting tidbit from Zeke's favourite basketball exec, Brad Stevens. Apparently with the NIL rules in place, most players worth drafting in the back of the 2nd round (from 45 onward) will make more money staying in school than they would on a NBA 2 way deal.
 
MindzEye said:
Interesting tidbit from Zeke's favourite basketball exec, Brad Stevens. Apparently with the NIL rules in place, most players worth drafting in the back of the 2nd round (from 45 onward) will make more money staying in school than they would on a NBA 2 way deal.
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Isnt it in the players best interest to start your NBA career sooner

That NIL deal is short lived , these second rounders can become free agents sooner than the slotted first rounders
 
And here's a round up of who the final mocks have us taking


Tankathon: Isaiah Collier
Sporting News: Carlton Carrington
CBS: Zach Edey
NBAdraft.net: Zach Edey
TheRinger: Ja'Kobe Walter
ESPN: Kyshawn George
USAToday: Isaiah Collier
Yahoo: Zach Edey
NBADraftRoom: Carlton Carrington
HoopsHype: Kel'el Ware
SBNation: Kel'el Ware
SI: Zach Edey
Bleacherreport: Kyle Filipowski
TheScore: Kyshawn George
NBC: Yves Missi


This is such a fucked up draft with almost no tiers that you usually see chunks of prospects fall into. Some mocks have a guy like Reed Sheppard going top 3, in the next one he's 10th, etc, etc. I can almost talk myself into half a dozen guys being good picks at the 19. Does Ware's motor hold up? Can Edey not get tortured in the P/R? Does Carrington's jump shot mechanics actually lead to meaningful shooting improvement at the NBA level? Does Missi's physicality translate to Clint Capela 2.0?

Fwiw, the two I have the easiest time talking myself into getting excited about in this range are Ware and Collier.
 
GEEMAN said:
Isnt it in the players best interest to start your NBA career sooner

That NIL deal is short lived , these second rounders can become free agents sooner than the slotted first rounders
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If you make the NBA roster immediately, earn the NBA paycheque and successfully carve out a role from that position, absolutely. If there's even a chance of you riding the bus for a year or more, fuck to the no.

The NIL stuff is the new landscape moving forward. These guys are marketable properties from the day they commit to their NCAA program and are going to get something resembling a bag as top players at their programs now. For example, last year Zach Edey pulled 810K at fucking Purdue (Bronny James hilariously made over 5M). Imagine he had another year of eligibility left and was projected as a 2nd round pick....why the fuck would you leave a 800K-1M dollar bag in college to sign a non guaranteed 560K two way NBA deal that may have you making 10% of that riding the bus in the G League for a year or two instead?

For a lot of these guys even making in the 300-500K range in NIL deals (on the books, there's always going to be dark money in NCAA programs) is to go back to school, get that bag again and try to improve your draft stock. If you end up doing all 4 years in the NCAA, so be it. You probably just made 3-5 million over the last 4 years anyway and are in a better position to ride the bus in the G League if you have to (also, you're more polished and physically ready for a NBA role now, which a lot of coaches like....so you're more likely to stick on the roster as well)
 
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