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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

LeafOfFaith

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Yup the homelessness is absolutely awful. The taxes are through the roof. The roads are shit. The Trumpy/antivax community is much bigger than anyone ever expected. Service in every aspect has become crap to nonexistent. Schools and kids are closely approaching hopeless. Let’s not even get into the health care situation, with insurance going up each year and the number of doctors accepting insurance going down by the day. Housing is more expensive than ever, and inventory is at all time lows, with rates now going up but that never having much of an impact on prices in LA. And people are frustrated, and more testy, obnoxious, rude, and isolated. It’s for sure the worst period of time that I’ve ever lived through, both here or there.
 

Wayward DP

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I don't know if Montreal has declined (haven't been in a few years now) but Toronto is in the middle of a pretty massive ~20 yr transformation. When transit and regional rail are sorted (underway with a functioning plan...fucking finally) it's going to be legitimately world class. Montreal doesn't need to have declined for Toronto to have become the significantly better city.
ehhh the transit system will be much improved but still pretty shambolic even once all the current projects are complete. Toronto has decades of catch up to do on this front.

and Toronto has its own blanket of smog too, albeit better than LAs I am sure.

don't get me wrong, Toronto is still great, relatively speaking. but the transit situation is a fucking embarrassment for a developed country and the Ontario line and Crosstown LRT alone do not do much to move the needle IMO
 

Wayward DP

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Yup the homelessness is absolutely awful. The taxes are through the roof. The roads are shit. The Trumpy/antivax community is much bigger than anyone ever expected. Service in every aspect has become crap to nonexistent. Schools and kids are closely approaching hopeless. Let’s not even get into the health care situation, with insurance going up each year and the number of doctors accepting insurance going down by the day. Housing is more expensive than ever, and inventory is at all time lows, with rates now going up but that never having much of an impact on prices in LA. And people are frustrated, and more testy, obnoxious, rude, and isolated. It’s for sure the worst period of time that I’ve ever lived through, both here or there.
Mitchie's America...
 

manny

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Montoyo demoted to bullpen coach probably.

Which will be a bit embarrassing because he's going to be top-3 in manager of the year voting.
 

MON4NHLTOR4MLB

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Montoyo demoted to bullpen coach probably.

Which will be a bit embarrassing because he's going to be top-3 in manager of the year voting.

Because he had an amazing team that bailed him out and would’ve made playoffs if not for his mistakes and the brutal bullpen
 

axlsalinger

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Because he had an amazing team that bailed him out and would’ve made playoffs if not for his mistakes and the brutal bullpen
I get it, the manager is fully responsible for the 71 losses but should get no credit for the 91 wins and also no credit for managing personalities and the locker room which is (imo) the most important job a baseball manager has ... on a team that had the best chemistry of any pro team I've ever seen. Totally makes sense, not biased at all.
 

UWHabs

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I get it, the manager is fully responsible for the 71 losses but should get no credit for the 91 wins and also no credit for managing personalities and the locker room which is (imo) the most important job a baseball manager has ... on a team that had the best chemistry of any pro team I've ever seen. Totally makes sense, not biased at all.

It's also totally his fault that management never gave him good options in the pen either. I mean, I don't think he's the best manager in the game, and the whole "get 5 superstar bats and hit them 1-5 in the lineup" doesn't exactly take a genius to manage. But yeah, you'd have to be smoking something heavy to think the team would drop him as manager after what the team has done in the last couple years.
 

MON4NHLTOR4MLB

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One things for sure. You can bet your ass there’s resources and pressure from Rogers to maintain and at minimum improve bullpen. With tasting those 30k crowds and seeing the fans hungry to win again and not being able to watch for basically 2 years, they’ll want to cash in on this with a long postseason next year with possibly a full stadium. So much profit to be had
 

Wayward DP

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One things for sure. You can bet your ass there’s resources and pressure from Rogers to maintain and at minimum improve bullpen. With tasting those 30k crowds and seeing the fans hungry to win again and not being able to watch for basically 2 years, they’ll want to cash in on this with a long postseason next year with possibly a full stadium. So much profit to be had
Wait what? Rogers is not gonna spend like the major market and filthy rich ownership group they are. Continue to pretend to be a mid market team is the likeliest path
 

Volcanologist

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One things for sure. You can bet your ass there’s resources and pressure from Rogers to maintain and at minimum improve bullpen. With tasting those 30k crowds and seeing the fans hungry to win again and not being able to watch for basically 2 years, they’ll want to cash in on this with a long postseason next year with possibly a full stadium. So much profit to be had

that has never motivated them before
 

MON4NHLTOR4MLB

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Wait what? Rogers is not gonna spend like the major market and filthy rich ownership group they are. Continue to pretend to be a mid market team is the likeliest path

I’m not saying they’re gonna spend like Dodgers, we all know they’re too cheap for that but the backlash if they lose both Ray and Semien without replacing them with equally good talent and not spending on pitching will completely piss off the fan base. With the stadium back and capacity restrictions lifting, they’ll want to ride that excitement big time
 

GEEMAN

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I’m not saying they’re gonna spend like Dodgers, we all know they’re too cheap for that but the backlash if they lose both Ray and Semien without replacing them with equally good talent and not spending on pitching will completely piss off the fan base. With the stadium back and capacity restrictions lifting, they’ll want to ride that excitement big time

I dont think losing Ray or Semien will be as bad as most think

Your starting with no interruptions barring another outbreak . Playing at home without dealing with uprooting family issues , borders and different venues

You have Berrios and Manoah from day 1 with Ryu , thats a hell of a start you didnt have this year

Nobody expected Ray to have a career year and Matz probably resigns with us

Kirk/Springer/Biggio missed over 200 games , and from a run production standpoint will replace what Marcus gave us .

Defensively he will be missed for sure but team will get other players to fill the roster

Team is too loaded offensively , maybe the best in the league
 

MON4NHLTOR4MLB

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I dont think losing Ray or Semien will be as bad as most think

Your starting with no interruptions barring another outbreak . Playing at home without dealing with uprooting family issues , borders and different venues

You have Berrios and Manoah from day 1 with Ryu , thats a hell of a start you didnt have this year

Nobody expected Ray to have a career year and Matz probably resigns with us

Kirk/Springer/Biggio missed over 200 games , and from a run production standpoint will replace what Marcus gave us .

Defensively he will be missed for sure but team will get other players to fill the roster

Team is too loaded offensively , maybe the best in the league

I get that but I’m just saying ownership and management aren’t dumb and they have to realize the time is now for this team to start piling on the needed pieces
 
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