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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

Schneider absolutley has to get a look as the everyday 2B, he's the only one of these jamokes that potentially represents a league avg or better bat.

And yes, their approach to OF4 appears to be IKF and or Biggio when they are not in the field, which is pretty god damn disgusting with Pham/Duval/Grossman still out there.
 
Jays need to figure out the 4th OF spot. The IF can be pieced together, and if someone like Clement comes in and steals Espinal's spot, all the better.
 
They might keep Nathan Lukes as the 4th OF. He’s having a great spring. He’s also almost 30, has basically no MLB track record and probably isn’t very good. But he’s an LH bat and also was an Atkins/Shapiro draft pick with Cleveland.
 
I like JD Davis but his defense has never been good, until it ticked up a little bit last year. Highly likely to regress back to previous levels, and our IF/DH is already pretty crowded.

I do believe Espinal may have an option left.

And any of Biggio/IKF/Barger/Lukes can be a 4th OF, or a trade or waiver pickup. Duvall and Grossman are the most boring guys imaginable, only Pham is mildly interesting on that list with a heavy stress on the word mildly.
 
manny said:
They might keep Nathan Lukes as the 4th OF. He’s having a great spring. He’s also almost 30, has basically no MLB track record and probably isn’t very good. But he’s an LH bat and also was an Atkins/Shapiro draft pick with Cleveland.
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The problem with Lukes is that he's a LHH, and the OF4 we need should be a RHH so KK and Varsho aren't both in there vs LHP.

If Lukes makes the team he's just going to sit on the bench and never be used.
 
axlsalinger said:
I like JD Davis but his defense has never been good, until it ticked up a little bit last year. Highly likely to regress back to previous levels, and our IF/DH is already pretty crowded.

I do believe Espinal may have an option left.

And any of Biggio/IKF/Barger/Lukes can be a 4th OF, or a trade or waiver pickup. Duvall and Grossman are the most boring guys imaginable, only Pham is mildly interesting on that list with a heavy stress on the word mildly.
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Our IF/DH is crowded but bad. JD Davis/IKF could actually kinda work as a tandem, when you take out the former for a glove in close games, but fuck me since they overpaid IKF by about 80% might as well trot him out everyday and embrace the weak contact.

Espinal does have an option.

You have to be absolutely cracked to want to see IKF and his awful bat in LF, his only asset his defence, is literally wasted out there and is a replacement level bat.

Biggio is a dogshit OF, should really never be out there.

Lukes has the wrong handedness for this roster, sorry.

Barger cracking the roster, lol.

Grossman actually mashed LHP which is what he would be here for, as would Pham/Duval, god forbid they are functional but boring, while you pine for pipe dreams, dogshit and non OF.
 
yes it's a goddamn modern day tragedy nobody has signed fucking Rex Grossman yet, or whatever the fuck his name is. Amazing that 30 MLB GM's aren't lined up around the block
 
axlsalinger said:
yes it's a goddamn modern day tragedy nobody has signed fucking Rex Grossman yet, or whatever the fuck his name is. Amazing that 30 MLB GM's aren't lined up around the block
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He fills a need.

Is he amazing? no, does he do exactly one thing well? yes, do we have a glaring hole at OF4 where his one trait will come in handy? yes, just like last year, and just like last year they are not going to address it.

When did your need to be a contrarian trump any sense of logic and reason?
 
Spring OPS


RF Springer 18pa, .856
SS Bichette 27pa, 1.000
1B Guerrero 20pa, .979
DH Turner 24pa, .695
C Kirk 20pa, 1.000
LF Varsho 26pa, .883
2B Schneider 27pa, .855
CF Kiermaier 15pa, .600
3B Falefa 21pa, .962

C Jansen 22pa, .723
UT Biggio 10pa, 1.475


IF Escobar 28pa, .292
IF Clement 26pa, 1.143
IF Espinal 23pa, .570
IF Orelvis 20pa, .566
IF Barger 19pa, .929

1B Votto
1B Horwitz 28pa, .297
1B Vogelbach 22pa, .897

OF Lukes 26pa, 1.208
OF Robertson 22pa, .943
OF Eden 22pa, .692
OF Roden 20pa, .932

C Serven 13pa, 1.553




Clement and Lukes making the bardest charges for roster spots, and the team is giving them lots of chances. They also both have intriguing track records that could easily project to quality mlb hitting with good defense. I wouldn't mind these two on the team at all.

Horwitz, Espinal, Escobar getting lots of looks too but flopping so far.
 
zeke said:
Spring OPS


RF Springer 18pa, .856
SS Bichette 27pa, 1.000
1B Guerrero 20pa, .979
DH Turner 24pa, .695
C Kirk 20pa, 1.000
LF Varsho 26pa, .883
2B Schneider 27pa, .855
CF Kiermaier 15pa, .600
3B Falefa 21pa, .962

C Jansen 22pa, .723
UT Biggio 10pa, 1.475


IF Escobar 28pa, .292
IF Clement 26pa, 1.143
IF Espinal 23pa, .570
IF Orelvis 20pa, .566
IF Barger 19pa, .929

1B Votto
1B Horwitz 28pa, .297
1B Vogelbach 22pa, .897

OF Lukes 26pa, 1.208
OF Robertson 22pa, .943
OF Eden 22pa, .692
OF Roden 20pa, .932

C Serven 13pa, 1.553




Clement and Lukes making the bardest charges for roster spots, and the team is giving them lots of chances. They also both have intriguing track records that could easily project to quality mlb hitting with good defense. I wouldn't mind these two on the team at all.

Horwitz, Espinal, Escobar getting lots of looks too but flopping so far.
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If Lukes hit RH, i'd call him a lock...he doesnt help the L v L problem we currently have in the OF
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
The problem with Lukes is that he's a LHH, and the OF4 we need should be a RHH so KK and Varsho aren't both in there vs LHP.

If Lukes makes the team he's just going to sit on the bench and never be used.
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The 4th OF will get 500PAs and I don’t think handendess will be the primary concern. Part of the reason they’re planning to have Schneider and IKF play the OF is to have a RH bat available when absolutely necessary.

But also, yeah, there are going to be many games where both KK and Varsho play against LHP.
 
Regarding 4th OF: They will do what they did last year and claim a "Luplow" type guy of waivers. It is not like it is hard to find an OFer who only hits Lefties.
 
manny said:
The 4th OF will get 500PAs and I don’t think handendess will be the primary concern. Part of the reason they’re planning to have Schneider and IKF play the OF is to have a RH bat available when absolutely necessary.

But also, yeah, there are going to be many games where both KK and Varsho play against LHP.
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And there in lies my issue

I hate KK and Varsho both v LHP
i really hate IKF and Biggio in the OF

Lukes was here for a bit last year and Schneider did nothing with him. I struggle to see him getting enough PA vs RHP where he matters.
 
Pwner said:
Regarding 4th OF: They will do what they did last year and claim a "Luplow" type guy of waivers. It is not like it is hard to find an OFer who only hits Lefties.
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How did that work out?

Why address a need in the offseason via FA when you can claim some garbage from another team and only use them for 10 PA
 
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