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OT: True Crime

Tossed it on almost as a lark, with no real intention of getting into it….and ended up binging the entire first season.

Haven’t gotten around to s2 yet.
axlsalinger said:
Should mention the tv show Only Murders in the Building, perfect for this thread. Three people start a podcast after there's a murder in their New York City apartment building.

Season 1 was pretty solid, but season 2 is excellent and very entertaining (at least through the first 4 episodes, anyway). I guess there's a 3rd season as well.

Can never go wrong with Steve Martin and Martin Short to begin with!
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watching it kinda made me fall back in love with both of them, after not really thinking about them for years….their dynamic together in movies, interviews, on stage…..always great.
 
Montana said:
We’ve had a missing person here on PEI, and they just broke the news that they’ve arrested two people in relation to her disappearance…





Wonder if that charge points to a Steven Avery burn pit situation, and they charge them with this until they get a positive ID via dental records?
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Her remains were found last night, about 15 minutes from my place.



Obviously, any further statements on this case will now be made through my lawyer.
 
Was watching a True Crime series on Netflix the other day about the DC Sniper case….and I never knew that they caught him because during one of his rants to the cops, he mentioned a murder in “Montgomery” and while some of the shootings had taken place in Montgomery county…an investigator pointed out that Montgomery, Alabama isn’t that far away either…..so they looked into unsolved cases there, and amongst them was a liquor store robbery where two women leaving with the deposits from the day, were shot….one killed and one survived, resulting in this sketch…

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…but while running from the scene he dropped a gun magazine, which they were able to pull a print from. But at the time they couldn’t match it to anyone.

after the sniper turned them onto this case tho, they were able to match that print, to an arrest made in Washington state, (I believe when they tried to enter Canada or something, and Malvo didn’t have a passport)…. This then turned them onto the name of John Allen Muhammad, a name they had on file previously from a tip someone had called in.

they then tied Muhammad to a blue Capri purchased in NJ…..we’re able to pull a tree stump from the address where Malvo and Muhammad had been known to live for a time, and practice shooting…later matching the ballistics from the shootings to the bullets found in the stump.

since they had the license plate of the Capri, and a blue capri had been reported by witnesses at a few of the scenes, they were able to tell the public they were on the lookout for a Blue Capri with the license plate number John Allen Muhammad had in NJ for the vehicle.

hours later someone reported seeing that Capri & license plate at a rest stop, troopers, swat, and fbi swarmed the car shortly after arresting both without incident and discovering the snipers nest within the vehicle…

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All of which is to say, I can’t believe it was the snipers themselves that ultimately led them to being caught….and if they’d just kept their mouths shut, they plausible could have been on the loose for how knows how long.
 
JackBurton said:
I recall that. i think the kid said it.
"Blue Caprice" is a pretty good movie about the 2 of them. Not really about the actual DC shootings, more about their life before that.
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Yeah, it was a Chevy Caprice sedan with the rear seat removed allowing the sniper to shoot from a prone position through a hole cut into the rear of the trunk.
 
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watched this over the weekend and just finished it up last night…..fascinating Murder case, and the doc is mildly okay at times, (oddly the prosecutors son, who went on to become a hairdresser & the creator of American Crew, is the protagonist in it)…..it’s waaaay too long for the twists and turns it makes, (many unnecessary)….and should have just been a ~2 hour doc. Instead of this drawn our 3 piece series.

….but it does one of the most irresponsibly gross things I’ve ever seen in a true crime doc, which is it introduces multiple on screen talking heads who are presented as locals who are experts on the case, worthy of listening to/trusting……only for one of them to be exposed in episode 3 as a complete drunkard lunatic who believes insane conspiracies & downright delusional shit. But in episode one (and possibly 2) he’s on screen quite a bit presenting “evidence” as if it’s stone cold truth.

It’d be one thing if you did that and then revealed it later within an episode, that’s bad enough….but to allow those opinions & ‘facts’ to settle in for a viewer, likely over days (if not weeks if it was released one per week) is unfathomably unethical & makes the entire series & theories proposed completely questionable.


Shame too, cause the fact the father was the main prosecutor & the son investigates the case from both sides, going back and forth on it, made for a real interesting & original dynamic…..but then it’s just undone in the end by some of the bullshit, the poor job of separating of facts from fiction, it’s overwrought length….and poorly executed climax. (Id argue it even has some false finishes, which is nuts)

case is a 8.5/10.

doc series is a 5/10.

doc series watched for the case but also it’s bizarro meta fuckery, and stepping back to witness it all as it’s own art project 6.5/10.
 
This is a fun podcast if you're interested in things like Hitler's sex life and what was found on Bin Laden's hard drives.

This one's worth a listen if you want to know the actual details of the criming at Trump University. (obviously available on YouTube or wherever you get your pods)



 
Montana said:
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watched this over the weekend and just finished it up last night…..fascinating Murder case, and the doc is mildly okay at times, (oddly the prosecutors son, who went on to become a hairdresser & the creator of American Crew, is the protagonist in it)…..it’s waaaay too long for the twists and turns it makes, (many unnecessary)….and should have just been a ~2 hour doc. Instead of this drawn our 3 piece series.

….but it does one of the most irresponsibly gross things I’ve ever seen in a true crime doc, which is it introduces multiple on screen talking heads who are presented as locals who are experts on the case, worthy of listening to/trusting……only for one of them to be exposed in episode 3 as a complete drunkard lunatic who believes insane conspiracies & downright delusional shit. But in episode one (and possibly 2) he’s on screen quite a bit presenting “evidence” as if it’s stone cold truth.

It’d be one thing if you did that and then revealed it later within an episode, that’s bad enough….but to allow those opinions & ‘facts’ to settle in for a viewer, likely over days (if not weeks if it was released one per week) is unfathomably unethical & makes the entire series & theories proposed completely questionable.


Shame too, cause the fact the father was the main prosecutor & the son investigates the case from both sides, going back and forth on it, made for a real interesting & original dynamic…..but then it’s just undone in the end by some of the bullshit, the poor job of separating of facts from fiction, it’s overwrought length….and poorly executed climax. (Id argue it even has some false finishes, which is nuts)

case is a 8.5/10.

doc series is a 5/10.

doc series watched for the case but also it’s bizarro meta fuckery, and stepping back to witness it all as it’s own art project 6.5/10.
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I forgot to mention this after I initially watched it, but thought it was very good.
 
axlsalinger said:


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He really gets nothing for this. Pretty crazy 28 years total for 2 murders and extortion. (And he was able to have a baby while in prison).

The shame of this is, when he took the money from her mom, he went to Peru and ended-up murdering the 2nd girl. He wouldn't have been there without the money.
 
"The Devil on Trial" on Netflix is worth a watch. Good true crime for Halloween. The case was actually shown in the 3rd Conjuring movie as Ed and Lorraine Warren got involved in it. The one issue it has some really cheesy reenactments. I didn't know about it and have not seen the 3rd Conjuring film, so it was good to me.
 
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