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Holloway has the greatest chin ever. He's been in so many wars with killers and he's never been dropped a single time.
 
I feel bad for Dubois, I don’t think there’s any chance Usyk was getting up from that body shot in time, but even tho it was a shot to the body….letter of the law says it was a low blow.

Sucks, he got hosed by life bigtime….that should have been a life changing punch for him.
 
UFC 293's been delivering so far.

Oh, and two fighters calling others faggots during their post-fight speech.

The two extremes, I guess.
 
Sucks to be Whittaker. This should have been his shot to be the champ with this new world order in the middleweight division. After all this time being clearly champ calibre for like five years.
 
Solid card so far. Della Madalena Holland was a good fight. Rosas back in the win column.

does Shevchenko win her belt back?
 
I had Grasso winning 3-2, but Shevchenko was absolutely robbed because of one judge inexplicably gave Grasso a 10-8 in round 5. Completely inexplicable and illogical.

If that round was scored a 10-9 by that judge, Shevchenko's the champion. She got robbed.
 
soco22 said:
Sucks to be Whittaker. This should have been his shot to be the champ with this new world order in the middleweight division. After all this time being clearly champ calibre for like five years.
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Is it true Izzy is getting another immediate rematch?…..saw it mentioned on Twitter but find that hard to believe, even for Dana.

if you’re undefeated previously, sure…..if it’s your first title loss in that division after years dominating, by all means…..but to be your third career UFC loss, all three of which are pretty damn conclusive losses, and your second in division within a calendar year??? What are we doing.
 
Also, I am a total hypocrite tho…..cause I’m absolutely fine with Fury fighting Ngannou, just cause I’m happy for MMA guys to cash in their UFC celebrity for the paydays they’re being unjustly deprived of by Dana & the bloodsuckers at WME.

also been a backer of “freak fights” back in the Pride days, or Paul Brothers fights now, because I think there’s a place for using non-competitive draws, to bring eyes & money to the sport while increasing the stature of other real fighters in the sport, either by being on the same card, or just indirectly by new fans watching it for the first time via a Logan Paul, and getting hooked.

….but giving stars free pathways to remain at the top, at the expense of proper competition within the ranks. Annoys the fuck out of me.

If you want to use old school WWE marketing techniques in your build up to fights, go for it….but don’t manipulate the chess pieces within the actual competition of sport, to this degree just to have the guy you want holding the belt. Christ…..that’s too close to just being “Sports Entertainment” outright.
 



just had to confirm he actually said it, and I wasnt getting bent out of shape over nothing. 😆
 
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Is it true Izzy is getting another immediate rematch?…..saw it mentioned on Twitter but find that hard to believe, even for Dana.

if you’re undefeated previously, sure…..if it’s your first title loss in that division after years dominating, by all means…..but to be your third career UFC loss, all three of which are pretty damn conclusive losses, and your second in division within a calendar year??? What are we doing.
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After UFC 293, Dana said during the press conference that the rematch was the most logical step. A few days later, during the Contender Series press conference, he didn't quite walk it back, but left the door open to other avenues.

One of Dana's major blindspots, beyond how he treats the fighters financially, is his insistence for immediate rematches or near immediate rematches. Remember a decade ago when he wanted to do Lesnar-Mir 3 and there was a major public outcry? So much so that he openly said, yeah that wasn't something they'd be going forward with because of how hte fans reacted.

I'll never forgive the UFC for having Cain Velasquez fight JDS three times and Bigfoot Silva twice (JDS -> Bigfoot -> JDS -> Bigfoot -> JDS) during Cain's absolute peak. There were a bunch of other fights I would have rather seen besides Bigfoot #2 and JDS #3.

I'm open to immediate rematches under 4 conditions:

1- A long reigning champion loses his belt to a new challenger. The champion should have the opportunity to avenge that loss immediately.
2- A fight that is stopped prematurely, such as an early eye poke rendering one of the fighters incapable of continuing. (See Austin Lane - Junior Tafa)
3- A massive robbery with the judges or a complete referee fuck-up.
4- A fucking badass fight and the result was close. I could watch Gaethje / Poirier / Chandler / Prime Ferguson fight each other over & over and I don't think I'd ever get tired of it.

But the reality is, according to court documents, the UFC doesn't see the belts as something that determines who the best in the world is, they see belts as a "prize" to give out at the end of the night. Israel signed a contract that made him the highest paid fighter in the UFC, there's no chance they're going to have him fight in three round fights before the main event. They want him to headline because they're paying him as one of their main headliners.
 
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