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zeke
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all stems from dudes bitter they can't get laid while everyone else does.
all stems from dudes bitter they can't get laid while everyone else does.
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I can get behind that. This comes from a guy with no religion mind you.
As for spirituality, I'm not sure we all have the same definition. My "spirituality" has nothing to do with the belief in any sort of god.
I can get behind that. This comes from a guy with no religion mind you.
As for spirituality, I'm not sure we all have the same definition. My "spirituality" has nothing to do with the belief in any sort of god.
Wayward DP
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Habsy
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Re: OT: American Politics
Spirituality is rooted in the connection of all living things on earth and the understanding that one action will cause a reaction. It’s trying to live your life without adversely affecting those around you. Wildlife included.
Spirituality is rooted in the connection of all living things on earth and the understanding that one action will cause a reaction. It’s trying to live your life without adversely affecting those around you. Wildlife included.
LeafGm
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Re: OT: American Politics
If having children together biologically is a "physical impossibility", then you shouldn't be able to have any kids period, whether adopted, natural born or through in-vitro?
Somehow, I'm guessing that same prohibition doesn't apply to heterosexual couples who discover that it's physically impossible for them to conceive children.
Yeah, that part of the post really stuck out to me.
If having children together biologically is a "physical impossibility", then you shouldn't be able to have any kids period, whether adopted, natural born or through in-vitro?
Somehow, I'm guessing that same prohibition doesn't apply to heterosexual couples who discover that it's physically impossible for them to conceive children.
Habsy
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OT: American Politics
I never understood the prejudice against gays. Especially males. The way I see it is:
1) they should also experience the joy that is marriage (yes there’s a tone of sarcasm in the “joy” part).
2) more women for heterosexuals.
What’s the big deal?
I never understood the prejudice against gays. Especially males. The way I see it is:
1) they should also experience the joy that is marriage (yes there’s a tone of sarcasm in the “joy” part).
2) more women for heterosexuals.
What’s the big deal?
LeafGm
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Though I think the thing that bothers me most about the religion in retrospect is the dim view it encourages you to take of yourself, people in general and the world as a whole.
"In and of yourself, you're a worthless, irredeemable piece of shit with no inherent value, but lucky for you your God still loves you enough that he had the meatbag version of himself viciously tortured to death in your place so that you'll have the option of not spending the rest of time burning in eternal darkness like you rightfully deserve."
Coming from a heavy evangelical Christian background myself, that moral superiority complex was definitely present there as well.
Though I think the thing that bothers me most about the religion in retrospect is the dim view it encourages you to take of yourself, people in general and the world as a whole.
"In and of yourself, you're a worthless, irredeemable piece of shit with no inherent value, but lucky for you your God still loves you enough that he had the meatbag version of himself viciously tortured to death in your place so that you'll have the option of not spending the rest of time burning in eternal darkness like you rightfully deserve."
zeke
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I mean christians literally call themselves sheep and jesus the shepherd. That is the ideal christian, as per the bible.
kinda funny.
I mean christians literally call themselves sheep and jesus the shepherd. That is the ideal christian, as per the bible.
kinda funny.
zeke
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Altair
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How many true religions have come and gone over the ages?
Roman gods, Greek gods, gauls, britons, germatic tribes had their gods, Egypt had their gods, native Americans, Pacific islanders, about all of Africa had their gods, ancient Persia had their gods, Mayans and aztecs gods, the list is endless.
And looking back we think of them as nuts, Zeus, Hermes, set, Maui, Sobek, Hades, all figments of the imagination of more primitive societies.
Yet here we are worshiping a imaginary dude in the sky, and some long dead carpenter who performed miracles.
Or Allah
Or buddah.
Or Moses
Personally I think the Greeks and Romans had it right. Dedicated gods to wine and sex? Sign me up.
How many true religions have come and gone over the ages?
Roman gods, Greek gods, gauls, britons, germatic tribes had their gods, Egypt had their gods, native Americans, Pacific islanders, about all of Africa had their gods, ancient Persia had their gods, Mayans and aztecs gods, the list is endless.
And looking back we think of them as nuts, Zeus, Hermes, set, Maui, Sobek, Hades, all figments of the imagination of more primitive societies.
Yet here we are worshiping a imaginary dude in the sky, and some long dead carpenter who performed miracles.
Or Allah
Or buddah.
Or Moses
Personally I think the Greeks and Romans had it right. Dedicated gods to wine and sex? Sign me up.
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LeafGm
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Thanks.
I mean, that message is almost always delivered with a lot more flowery language in a much less blunt way, but when you drill down, that is essentially what I was taught growing up.
Another fun one is evangelicals teaching little kids that Jesus could come back at any time and take away their parents, along with everyone else that's "saved", leaving you behind to fend for yourself with all the non-believers in an increasingly dystopian world over the next seven years.
At which point the world ends, and you'll be tossed into hell to burn in solitary darkness for all eternity.
Thanks.
I mean, that message is almost always delivered with a lot more flowery language in a much less blunt way, but when you drill down, that is essentially what I was taught growing up.
Another fun one is evangelicals teaching little kids that Jesus could come back at any time and take away their parents, along with everyone else that's "saved", leaving you behind to fend for yourself with all the non-believers in an increasingly dystopian world over the next seven years.
At which point the world ends, and you'll be tossed into hell to burn in solitary darkness for all eternity.
Habsy
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zeke
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Re: OT: American Politics
yep.
we live in a fallen, sinful world. the only hope for humankind is the grace of jesus.
that's the whole bag. the root of christianity is that we suck and nothing we do matters, other than whether we blindly believe in this suspiciiously secret god guy. hilarious.
Especially because it means that god is obviously completely incompetent - he created one special species in the whole universe and they turned out awful. The one single thing he set out to do he ****ed up horrendously. And oh yeah he also created the Angels. And most of them turned into demons, including the Devil. Way to go, God. Not to mention he's a total dick - "I'm gonna create you guys with a bunch of impulses, set up a bunch of rules that go against everything the body I gave you wants to do, and oh yeah i'm never going to show myself to you or talk to you, and for the 99% of you that don't blindly believe in me anyways, i'm going to torture you for all eternity".
nice.
p.s. I'm going to make the great, massive sacrifice of putting myself into a human body and facing human suffering for 1 infinitesmal part of my eternal being (though of course never facing the real human suffering of doubt and fear, because of course I know i'm god the whole time and gonna return to heaven in a quick sec), and you guys better be all in awe at that great sacrifice i made for you poor wretches who have known nothing other than that same doubt and fear and suffering since you were born, and don't even get to know for sure whether I exist or not the whole time, either.
yep.
we live in a fallen, sinful world. the only hope for humankind is the grace of jesus.
that's the whole bag. the root of christianity is that we suck and nothing we do matters, other than whether we blindly believe in this suspiciiously secret god guy. hilarious.
Especially because it means that god is obviously completely incompetent - he created one special species in the whole universe and they turned out awful. The one single thing he set out to do he ****ed up horrendously. And oh yeah he also created the Angels. And most of them turned into demons, including the Devil. Way to go, God. Not to mention he's a total dick - "I'm gonna create you guys with a bunch of impulses, set up a bunch of rules that go against everything the body I gave you wants to do, and oh yeah i'm never going to show myself to you or talk to you, and for the 99% of you that don't blindly believe in me anyways, i'm going to torture you for all eternity".
nice.
p.s. I'm going to make the great, massive sacrifice of putting myself into a human body and facing human suffering for 1 infinitesmal part of my eternal being (though of course never facing the real human suffering of doubt and fear, because of course I know i'm god the whole time and gonna return to heaven in a quick sec), and you guys better be all in awe at that great sacrifice i made for you poor wretches who have known nothing other than that same doubt and fear and suffering since you were born, and don't even get to know for sure whether I exist or not the whole time, either.
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