I think he is done is he not?
Rumors: 2024-25 Season
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funniest part of the Alzner time was when he said he would not go to the Fauci imposed bubble in 2020 as if he was ever going to be on the team in the first place.
Sal_Butera
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Not moving Beck
lecoqsportif
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Not AND, but rather OR + makeweight
Would rather move Calgary’s pick + makeweight
Would rather move Calgary’s pick + makeweight
Sal_Butera
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Not a f*ckin chance - yea Dobson makes the 1st pairing D role based on modern day mobility requirements but he’s an avg Dzone IQ Dman w almost non existent truculence - makes glaring Dzone miscues like Petry
He’s not worth Redenbacher + Beck
The end goal is not to build a fantasy league team but a team capable of actually winning playoff hockey with all the grind involved
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I am serious , Beck doesnt have to be included in any deal
Plenty of other ways to make a trade
Not that he is great or anything but tired of overpaying other teams bottom 6 when you have a near ready good player in the system
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Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Not me but I'd like to get Barzal too.
Habsy
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I don't think there's a bigger Beck supporter here than me and I'll pack his bags. Dobson is a #1 D and is RHD. You make that trade all day long.
GGpX
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You're worried about a bottom six player with minimal upside when a 24 year old first pairing d-man would be hypothetically available?????
Please be fucking serious.
GGpX
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What I find ludicrous is, GEEMAN has no issue trading Reinbacher. He draws the line at Owen Beck. Deeply unserious.
GGpX
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Okay. If there are any other 24-25 year old RHD first pairing d-men available, who are they and what are you giving up for them?
If a 24/25 year old #1 center or #1 d-man becomes available, I'm jumping all over him. Whatever the price is, short of Demidov.
This is the same bullshit reasoning that so many of you have every 5 years. Jack Eichel becomes available in his early 20s? Well he's not really that good and his injury history will prevent him from----- Yeah, about that. Las Vegas won that trade running away by giving up Alex Tuch and prospects. You'll gladly talk yourself out of a top-tier player because, what, he's not the perfect player? He instantly becomes our best d-man and while he's not perfect, I'll take his warts and figure out if Guhle can play with him long-term on the left.
Sal_Butera
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Beck & Redenbacher are not fringe prospects IMO.
Dobson plays a Matheson type Dzone game, major brain farts every game - if that’s the price to pay for a 1Dman, I want min Weber in return - guaranteed 25-27TOI playoff warrior in all game situations w the ability to physically impair the opposition (Weber’s history of targeting & hurting players ribs using his forearm during board battles) or preferably a player who has the potential to develop into an impact player in all three zones - I don’t see that happening with Dobson
For all the fanfare Makar receives for his mobility & offensive prowess, he’s got Lidstrom type Dzone impact play reading ability which keeps him properly positioned to make the right play.
This is all a moot point because I don’t see Uncle Lou rebuilding and rumor is he’s set the stage for his son to start transitioning over to Pres & GM
Sal_Butera
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For the record, I’d offer up both 1st rounders right now for Dobson, straight up, no protection on Habs 1st
Isles dont make this trade ...they want now bodies not futures
Secondly there are other assets we can move without moving Beck, not that hard to do