WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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I know this is just a pretend GM we're hiring but even so I find Darche the least inspiring choice out there.
So who's the next (faux) GM?
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Sal_Butera
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Eric Tulsky Canes AGM (but really the day to day acting GM) had zero background in hockey as in not knowing what a puck was until being named AGM based on his analytics abilities and given full hockey ops authority on stamping trades, UFA signings, draft picks and contract deals
The Canes are not the Habs that comes with scrutiny , they could hire the leader of Isis and no one would care
Plus you mentioned he is AGM , not GM
ET has been in the organization 7 years and his first as AGM
He grew up the ranks as a part timer to Analysis to running the Analytics department and other key functions
He will be Waddel’s replacement one day
Big difference than handing the job to someone just because they speak French and spent no time in the game learning or taking a smaller role with the Habs first
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Exactly. Wake me when the Canes win anything. And you know how things go in Montreal. They'll hire a ti-gars and after one season the media will be calling for him to be the sole person in charge no matter how well or badly he performs.
Sal_Butera
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That’s the point though, Dundon mandated from the time he came on board that “all hockey ops player decisions need to be authorized by Tulsky”… he is the defacto GM. Waddell is only there to talk to the media as a mouthpiece
Thats my point , ET wasnt GM the second he got a job with the Canes ......you learn the ropes and earn your stripes
This is not the typical GM post. Jeff Gorton is the de facto GM. You don’t have to hire someone with NHL experience, just someone smart who can work with, I mean under, Gorton, and be okay with that.
Agreed , Gorton runs the entire show
I wonder if he has full carte blanche on hockey personnel decisions without needing numb nuts approval
The GM hire will require Jeff`s approval to appease the media
Thurston
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I agree this is Gorton's show, with him at the top of the food chain from the hockey management standpoint.
That said, I still want the best hockey person they can find to be the GM, regardless of it is not a traditional GM's role this time around.
I don't just want someone to be the "public face" of the front office while Gorton quietly works in the background. I want someone who can legitimately bring their own ideas, have the ability to express them and actually bring something to the table.
If you have a chance to gather the biggest and brightest hockey minds out there, why not do that?
That said, I still want the best hockey person they can find to be the GM, regardless of it is not a traditional GM's role this time around.
I don't just want someone to be the "public face" of the front office while Gorton quietly works in the background. I want someone who can legitimately bring their own ideas, have the ability to express them and actually bring something to the table.
If you have a chance to gather the biggest and brightest hockey minds out there, why not do that?
MON4NHLTOR4MLB
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I’m good with Brière, Darche, Roy, Hughes
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
And be fluent in French
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
I prefer Darche simply for the access to lightning knowledge
GrandWazoo
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Same. However there is not a candidate in this list that would upset me, nor is there anyone especially standing out.
It doesn't matter who they hire as GM. It's an empty title. It exists only because Geoff Molson is a complete wuss. Gorton is the actual GM. They could hire you as the "GM" and I'd be fine with it.
Yep, pretty competent with experience in development and won 2 cups with Tampa. He's the obvious choice.
Lol. Darche has as much responsibility for those two Cups as you or me.
Sal_Butera
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Let me help w Lightning’s knowledge - Stevie Y worked NHL HQ when concussion lawsuits were starting to percolate in 2010 and had front row seats to what was about to unfold.
Upon being named GM of TBay, he zigged and went with pure skill (Johnson, Kucherov, Point) when everyone else zagged as NHL teams always do following the Bruins & Kings Cup teams, until publicity of lawsuits forced a more speed & skill game with less physicality.
That 4-year window (2011-2015) gave TBay the advantage, combined with leverage Al Murray’s 5-yr window of contacts, till teams started catching up.
Drache & Brisebois have had squat to do with the core of TBay, but Brisebois succeeded where Stevie Y couldn’t in properly identifying playoff grit
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That’s about right re: Brisesbois. He put the finishing touches on the team. BTW, you’re killing me with your posts at HF in the GM thread. Most of those posters seem to think the GM will be in charge of the rebuild. Lol.