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The 2019-2020 MotherFucking Season Thread

I get what you are saying. But here is my call. Johnsson, has been a runt and underrated for so long, I think he is peaked.

Now after two amazing calls on Schenn and Babcock, first on both, I made the worlds worst call and called Crosby finished well before his time.

So I could be horribly wrong here, its always possible.

But remember, those two calls were epic. Well before anyone else on the internet. So I could be very very right here.

I see Tie Domi fall down on Johnsson. And I don't like it.

I suspect, one of Dubas or Keefe,, OR both, feel the same way I do. Get the bigger faster man.

Could be wrong bro. But as usual, I don't think I am.

Engvall is such an intelligent hockey players as is Justin Holl.

I don't see any intelligence from Johnsson, I just see rat like ferocity and smallness.

I give you, that Johnsson scored 20 goals in the NHL, but I don't see him hitting even 14 ever again.

The game has passed him by already, it changes every 2 years now.

He is too small and too shitty defensively, that is my stance and I am sticking to it.

I think if you insert him, the team will not do well. We will regress....

But wtf do I know. NHL changes so rapidly now, with player development, its a full on who knows.

I love Spezza in our lineup, I think he brings so much stuff to the dressing room etc...

But Engvall versus Johnsson? I drive Johnsson to the airport and congratulate him on a great spoof.

Long, strong, fast, tough and offensive bro. That is Engvall.

If we drop Engvall for Johnsson, I am calling it here, BIG BIG drop in points. Engvall is Pete Mahovlich 2.0 2019
 
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It’s hard, cause we don’t know what AJ would fetch on the open market. I don’t think we can afford to keep all of Kerfoot, kappy and AJ next year. If picking from those three - would rather trade AJ...but I don’t know what each would return.
 
Same idea - does trading on of those three get us a better piece to make a run...don’t know to comment.

Thinking of what the raps did with trading JV last year.
 
Tough to draw parallels between the leafs and the raptors largely because the NBA is a pretty straight forward league. If you have the best players and are the best team, you're probably going to win in a 7 game series. At a much higher rate than the best team wins a 7 game series in the NHL anyway. Also the nature of basketball allows for one guy to have an outsized influence (like Gasol did on the Raptors defence, taking it from really good to fringe legendary) despite Gasol himself not being an obvious stud anymore.

The key in the NHL really seems to be building the best club you can over an extended period of time and getting as many rolls of the dice as possible out of it. I also don't see a problem with our cap structure moving forward.

We have 9 forwards under contract
- Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Kerfoot, AJ, Kapanen, Moore, Hyman

With the RFA rights for
- Soupy, Engvall, Tima, Goat, Marchment, Brooks,

Spezza is the only UFA and would likely re sign for dirt cheap again

On the blueline we have Mo, Holl, Sandin, Lilly signed with Dermott's RFA rights. Muzzin, Barrie, Ceci, Marincin as UFA's.

So we're at about 66.8M in cap hit for next season, so roughly about 17 million to lock up a couple RFA forwards, and maybe make a splash on one big UFA defender. We're actually in a fantastic cap position next season and going forward. We don't need to trade anyone due to cap concerns at all.
 
MindzEye said:
Tough to draw parallels between the leafs and the raptors largely because the NBA is a pretty straight forward league. If you have the best players and are the best team, you're probably going to win in a 7 game series. At a much higher rate than the best team wins a 7 game series in the NHL anyway. Also the nature of basketball allows for one guy to have an outsized influence (like Gasol did on the Raptors defence, taking it from really good to fringe legendary) despite Gasol himself not being an obvious stud anymore.

The key in the NHL really seems to be building the best club you can over an extended period of time and getting as many rolls of the dice as possible out of it. I also don't see a problem with our cap structure moving forward.

We have 9 forwards under contract
- Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Kerfoot, AJ, Kapanen, Moore, Hyman

With the RFA rights for
- Soupy, Engvall, Tima, Goat, Marchment, Brooks,

Spezza is the only UFA and would likely re sign for dirt cheap again

On the blueline we have Mo, Holl, Sandin, Lilly signed with Dermott's RFA rights. Muzzin, Barrie, Ceci, Marincin as UFA's.

So we're at about 66.8M in cap hit for next season, so roughly about 17 million to lock up a couple RFA forwards, and maybe make a splash on one big UFA defender. We're actually in a fantastic cap position next season and going forward. We don't need to trade anyone due to cap concerns at all.
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We’re going to go balls to the wall to land Pietrangelo, and am doubling down on my original call that we will. And I fucking love that Muzzin went down so that the team can get an extended look at us without him and pass on that long term nonsense. Barrie is making a case to stay if he takes $6.5 or so, but not sure he’s willing to leave dough on the table. First priority is Pietrangelo though. I’ve been wanting to crunch the numbers to see how the rest of the roster fills out if he signs for $9m but haven’t had a chance.

The two big events coming up that demand our attention imo are Andersen after next year and Rielly the year after that. Andy’s fate is probably tied to our success in the next two postseasons. Rielly is more of a known game plan, even though he’s been disgustingly bad this year for the most part, but he’ll want probably the same dough that Pietrangelo gets. I’m hoping hard that the cap goes up generously over the next couple years to give us the room to do whatever we want.
 
Pietrangelo, is such a good dman its not even funny. He wants to end his career here. But WHO cares at this point?

Players in the world are so good, you cannot tie up too much money in certain players, butt yeah, Pietrangelo wants to play in Toronto. Confirmed
 
soco22 said:
It’s hard, cause we don’t know what AJ would fetch on the open market. I don’t think we can afford to keep all of Kerfoot, kappy and AJ next year. If picking from those three - would rather trade AJ...but I don’t know what each would return.
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Let prindham and dubas take care of the affordability aspect .....

In case you havent noticed .... they can turn water into wine lol. (If dubas doesnt win the gm of the year ..... I dont know what more he can do. Signing all these guys and the team over coming all these injuries).

Nobody here or short of his office door has a clue what the magic man is up to ......

Dubas has a plan, and that plan is working.
Sit back and enjoy the ride.

Short of an Anderson melt down, this team is on a victory run.

The leafs kind of remind me of the Blackhawks when they began to realize their potential.

Engvall is a nice talent (damn this guy can skate)... but he is just a part to the machine .... and can be easily slotted up and down the lineup or even replaced by someone as good or better. (Johnsson, soup and moore).

Johnsson is good player and both players will be needed for a long playoff run.

I am more concerned with the play of dermott and ceci.

Does anyone else get reminded of Ian white when watching dermott?

Hopefully the leafs bring up the two kids to get them some reps before the trade deadline.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
We’re going to go balls to the wall to land Pietrangelo, and am doubling down on my original call that we will. And I fucking love that Muzzin went down so that the team can get an extended look at us without him and pass on that long term nonsense. Barrie is making a case to stay if he takes $6.5 or so, but not sure he’s willing to leave dough on the table. First priority is Pietrangelo though. I’ve been wanting to crunch the numbers to see how the rest of the roster fills out if he signs for $9m but haven’t had a chance.

The two big events coming up that demand our attention imo are Andersen after next year and Rielly the year after that. Andy’s fate is probably tied to our success in the next two postseasons. Rielly is more of a known game plan, even though he’s been disgustingly bad this year for the most part, but he’ll want probably the same dough that Pietrangelo gets. I’m hoping hard that the cap goes up generously over the next couple years to give us the room to do whatever we want.
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I read somewhere that the NHLPA and the league might be keeping the cap artificially restrained for negotiation purposes and to lower the escrow payments.

I dont know if this is true, but if this does occur ... many players this off season will be taking a hit.

As for the reilly and Anderson's contracts ....
I am not sure of the leafs will be able to/or want to sign anderson for the money he "will" command.

Rielly negotiations will depend upon the influence and play of sandin and lilly.

If these two youngsters can become the players projected by many to be, then Morgan may become a casualty of their success.

For now .... he is still my top 2 dman on the team.... warts and all.

What would the cost be to bring in a pietrangelo?

Why go after someone for that money if we have the bodies already available? (Sandin and lilly Imo).
 
Pietroangelo is too old to give 7 years to at huge money. Can't see Dubas doing it. I guess it depends on what happens in the playoffs.
 
zeke said:
Hey @Volcanologist while you're expertly demolishing Pookie, feel free to point out something obvious that nobody there seems to have noticed.

That study he is using to diminish the impact of coaching actually proves the exact OPPOSITE of what he thinks it says.

That study is sort of a Mythbuster, and it busts the "New Coach Bump" myth. I.e. the claim that most teams get an automatic bump in performance just from the act of switching coaches by itself, regardless of the quality of coaching.

What that study proves, though, is that doesn't actually happen - on average, coaching changes makes no impact by itself. Some teams improve, some stay the same, some get worse - in equal proportions. There is no magic bump just from firing your coach.

What this means, then, is the exact opposite of what Pookie wants it to mean - it means that post coaching-change improvements CANNOT be dismissed as just a "new coach bump", since there is no such thing as a "new coach bump".

This doesn't mean that changes are necessarily due to the coaching (though in our case there is overwhelming evidence that it is), but the ONE and ONLY thing his study makes crystal clear is that the change most definitely cannot be dismissed as due to the mythical "New Coach Bump".
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lol...just make a new account already
 
Rangers recall Shesterkin and apparently it ain't related to goaltending health issues from the Rangers.

Could Lundy or Georgiev be traded? Stay the fuck tuned.
 
Preston said:
Rangers recall Shesterkin and apparently it ain't related to goaltending health issues from the Rangers.

Could Lundy or Georgiev be traded? Stay the **** tuned.
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They can only protect one goalie in the expansion draft. Best thing would be to trade georgiev for good young piece elsewhere.
 
Yeah not quite sure he's even starter material. It's a risk. I'd only feel comfortable trading Andersen if they can get another similar goalie to platoon with George. But as zeke points out, they can only protect one in a couple years.
 
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