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The Expansion Draft

Hmm. Zach Bogosian is available too.

Though he's generally unavailable to play more than 60 games in any year.
 
Isles give up a 1st to keep Vegas from plucking a forward.

It's crazy how they already have three 1sts in the draft. Maybe more to come.
 
Hmm. Zach Bogosian is available too.

Though he's generally unavailable to play more than 60 games in any year.
He also isn't really very good, and has three more years at $5M+ left on his deal.

Buffalo would be thrilled if someone took that off their hands.


I can't believe the 7th overall pick of a few years ago who had 34 points at age 22 is left unprotected if there's no deal in place.
It's possible. All the reports leading up to the draft seemed to indicate Vegas & the Wild hadn't been able to work out a deal.

And the Wild were painted into a corner with all the defensemen they wanted to protect.
 
If I'm Vegas weight getting as much as possible from the wild to not take dumba and then take staal and flip him with some salary retention for another big return.
 
Who really cares much about Staal?

Dumba is a huge piece for them for the next decade if they take him. I don't know what they could reasonably offer to have Vegas lay off. It'll be painful one way or the other for them.
 
Who really cares much about Staal?

Dumba is a huge piece for them for the next decade if they take him. I don't know what they could reasonably offer to have Vegas lay off. It'll be painful one way or the other for them.
3.5 for two more years of Staal is a steal and just coming off a 65 pts season

Having a guy like that down the middle would be a huge add
 
It's like taking JVR over Rielly.

Worse than that even, considering Staal's age.

Vegas shouldn't even think twice.
 
I'm talking us make a deal with Vegas to get him.

That kind of depth let's you go on deep runs.
 
Would prefer if we didn't pull a Montreal and waste assets on positions of strength as opposed to addressing positions of need.
 
I'm talking us make a deal with Vegas to get him.

That kind of depth let's you go on deep runs.
Even so, though, LOF's point remains---it's an either/or proposition for Vegas. If they take Staal for the purpose of dealing him to Toronto, then they've lost their chance to get Dumba. That means that the return you offer for them has to be more valuable than Dumba would be to Vegas, and more valuable than the return any other team would be offering for either Dumba or Staal.

So you can't really assume that Staal would be in any way cheap to acquire.
 
Would prefer if we didn't pull a Montreal and waste assets on positions of strength as opposed to addressing positions of need.

I'm not a fan of Bergevin at all... but the Drouin trade was definitely addressing a need. We definitely needed more fire power.
 
Vegas should just keep Dumba.
That's what I'd do if I were McPhee.

The kid's the same age as Rielly (22), he's right-handed, and he's coming off an 11-goal, 34-point season.

He's one of the few exposed players available in this draft that Vegas could potentially build with long-term.
 
I'm talking us make a deal with Vegas to get him.

That kind of depth let's you go on deep runs.

Making a deal to get him means losing out on Dumba.

Which they can't do.

So if we wanted them to leave Dumba and take Staal, what's the price? Zaitsev? More? It has to make up for their losing out on Dumba.
 
Even so, though, LOF's point remains---it's an either/or proposition for Vegas. If they take Staal for the purpose of dealing him to Toronto, then they've lost their chance to get Dumba. That means that the return you offer for them has to be more valuable than Dumba would be to Vegas, and more valuable than the return any other team would be offering for either Dumba or Staal.

So you can't really assume that Staal would be in any way cheap to acquire.

Unless they get paid by Vegas to leave Dumba alone... then flip Staal. They could get paid off twice.
 
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