Was he though? Gretzky had 2 seasons (adjusted) with more points than Marios best season and 3rd + 4th with more adjusted points than Marios 2nd best season.
Of the top 15 seasons ever, gretzky has 7 of them
It's hard to compare because of the health reasons sure but staying healthy enough is a big part of being the best.Gotta be careful with adjusted seasons - they don't pro-rate them to 82gms. Mario actually had better peak adjusted seasons.
In the 80's no one knew what '2 way play" was. Didn't exist.
Gretz had the biggest impact on the game too.
Gotta be careful with adjusted seasons - they don't pro-rate them to 82gms. Mario actually had better peak adjusted seasons.
I actually get annoyed at the focus on shot blocking and playing PK. Stars can even score more without that nonsense and sell the game better.
Was it really good Matthews led all forwards in blocked shots last year? I don't like it myself.
Easily my biggest "what the fuck just happened" hockey memory of all-time. By a longshot.Mario was ridiculous. That first game back against the Leafs after retirement is burned into my memory. The fucker was past his prime, hadn't even played in 3 years and no one could touch him. And he played with Jagr and Francis. Just not fair.
That game was so incredible. How do you not play for 3 and a half years then decide in a December game to return and do that?Mario was ridiculous. That first game back against the Leafs after retirement is burned into my memory. The fucker was past his prime, hadn't even played in 3 years and no one could touch him. And he played with Jagr and Francis. Just not fair.
Lemieux is my best ever.This got me:
As for injury, it’s tough when great players get hurt, but it’s also a loser’s lament when it comes to rating and ranking the all-time best. In the end, all that matters is performance, which is why Wayne Gretzky is considered the best ever NHLer, followed by Gordie Howe"
Does anyone consider those 2 1-2 for greatest ever? Isn't Howe at best #4 on most lists?
Take the cancer, the back injuries that didn’t allow him to tie his own skates, and the years he missed before coming back, and let’s see what Lemieux’s totals look like then.Had Gretzky played more on the PK (he did when they were down in the third) he would probably own the record for most shorthanded goals and points too.
Gretzky was never my favorite but I just can't see how anyone can have him anywhere but #1.
FairMario and Wayne had pretty much identical career PPG but Mario missed the heyday of the early 80s scoring and had to play through the slog of the late 90s.
Not replaced by David Ayers?Easily my biggest "what the fuck just happened" hockey memory of all-time. By a longshot.