He's a #1 center and a damn good one. I'm challenging "one of the best players in the league" because I wouldn't even call him "one of the best centers in the league." But my definition of "one of the best" is simply different than yours so we may not even disagree here!But I said he was one of the best players, not centers.
You laughed at being top 30 among all scorers.
I'm adding for you that he was also top 15 among centers.
Yup.we do get spoiled. Tavares would be the #1C for plenty of teams in the league.
Top 30 overall, top 15 at position, top 5%.He's a #1 center and a damn good one. I'm challenging "one of the best players in the league" because I wouldn't even call him "one of the best centers in the league." But my definition of "one of the best" is simply different than yours so we may not even disagree here!
Cool, but not everyone thinks it makes sense to penalize someone for being a PP assassin.
Tavares would be the #1C for plenty of teams in the league.
We're lucky to have several great players, each of whom benefit from it, not just him.But he's the 4th best forward, and 5th best player on that unit.
Most of the game is played at ES. If you're not elite at ES, you're not "one of the best players in the league".
I'll send you a $10 Tim Hortons gift certificate.Tavares is basically an expensive Jason Allison with more goals and less assists.
Change my mind.
why is Lafferty penciled anywhere other than the 4th line?
Tavares is basically an expensive Jason Allison with more goals and less assists.
Change my mind.
Who cares though? He's still one of the best players in the league. It doesn't matter how you slice it up and try to discount this versus that, because at the end of the day, he still got himself into the top 30 in goals and points in year 5 of 7 at age 33. That's awesome, you should be thrilled.Teams at the bottom of the league maybe.
Not many good teams. Even just in our division, is he actually better than Stutzle or Larkin? If not, the only team he's 1C on in our division is Boston (with Zacha having out pointed him in ES last season, but I digress).
Over in the metro? Yeah, maybe half the clubs (Washington, Isles, Philly because Couturier died I guess)
How many players are included in your list of "one of the best players in the league?" 50? 100? Mine is a heck of a lot shorter. Usually for me it means that they are ONE of the BEST players in the league and not the 54th or 87th best player in the league.Who cares though? He's still one of the best players in the league. It doesn't matter how you slice it up and try to discount this versus that, because at the end of the day, he still got himself into the top 30 in goals and points in year 5 of 7 at age 33. That's awesome, you should be thrilled.
Mind not changed.Well, this does undersell Tavares a bit.
He gets significantly more goals than Allison and only slightly fewer assists.
And though he’s not fleet of foot, he’s doesn’t look like he’s skating in mud to nearly the same degree Allison did.
Though of course, where the comparison isn’t great for JT is that Allison did cost approximately 1/10th of what Tavares does in salary.