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TML? More like FML, amirite? Yet Another Off Season Thread

zeke said:
Consider it compensation for the biased and abusive workplace treatment he received here before.
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The organization was/is fixated on having a "starter". Reimer/Bernier was probably a long term solution that we just decided to blow up for some reason.

There's really only one season since we detonated that where the pair of them didn't look like a good bet to give us team .910sv% or better until this past season.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Just go with the cheap backup
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This is like begging for another Mrazek situation, but cheaper.

The important variable is how good they are, not how cheap they are. Worry about getting 2 goalies of professional calibre that are a good bet for .910-.915 or better. If you can get it done for good contract value, all the better, but worry about the most important variable first.

then see which goalie of a noncontending team is doing well and grab him in April.
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Way easier to get your hands on basically anything else at the deadline than it is to get a solid goalie.
 
Varlamov's last 3 seasons 'could' be the result of the "Trotz effect" in NY. Trotz and goalie coach Mitch Korn have worked together since 1998 with the Predators.. he's worked with Hasek, Vokoun, Mason, Rinne, Holtby, Grubauer, Vanecek, Lehner, Varlamov, Sorokin. He'd be a hell of a grab if the Islanders are willing to let him go too.
 
Fwiw, here's the best pending UFA goalies potentially available at the deadline next season

- Varlamov
- Reimer
- Talbot
- Raanta
- Freddy
- Stolarz
- Jarry
- Smith

Talbot, Raanta, Freddy, Jarry, Smith are all on playoff teams that are unlikely to be selling a goalie. If Anaheim isn't selling Stolarz now, and he plays well enough to be worth trading at the deadline, they're keeping him and flogging Gibson. If we're interested in Varly or Reimer, why not get them now instead of risking playoff seeding and them not being available at the deadline?

The off season is when you sort out your goaltending situation, not in season.
 
MindzEye said:
Fwiw, here's the best pending UFA goalies potentially available at the deadline next season

- Varlamov
- Reimer
- Talbot
- Raanta
- Freddy
- Stolarz
- Jarry
- Smith

Talbot, Raanta, Freddy, Jarry, Smith are all on playoff teams that are unlikely to be selling a goalie. If Anaheim isn't selling Stolarz now, and he plays well enough to be worth trading at the deadline, they're keeping him and flogging Gibson. If we're interested in Varly or Reimer, why not get them now instead of risking playoff seeding and them not being available at the deadline?

The off season is when you sort out your goaltending situation, not in season.
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Passionless you agrees and understands.
 
Yeah deadline is where you shore up depth or add an extra difference maker up front or on the backend. Never loved the idea of roasting Dubas for not getting anyone at the deadline last year when they had minimal space and the "best" goalie traded was some 90 year old career playoff tire fire. Grab your goalies in the offseason and if you fuck up, you're probably gonna be shit out of luck.

So yeah, try what you tried last year and grab 2 guys that can play. Except try not to miss this time. No need to over-correct and penetrate someone balls deep at a huge AAV and term. Be smart about it. You don't have a Vas and you won't get one either.
 
In fairness, Dubas was getting roasted for fucking the goaltending up in the summer and then not fixing his fuck up. It was a continuation of the roasting in the summer, not a new roast.

and in retrospect, he still probably should have paid the cost and grabbed a goalie at the deadline as Jack struggled in the back half of the series and probably should have sat for at least a game after he got pumped for 5 on 16 shots but we didn't have another professional option in house.
 
MindzEye said:
In fairness, Dubas was getting roasted for fucking the goaltending up in the summer and then not fixing his fuck up. It was a continuation of the roasting in the summer, not a new roast.

and in retrospect, he still probably should have paid the cost and grabbed a goalie at the deadline as Jack struggled in the back half of the series and probably should have sat for at least a game after he got pumped for 5 on 16 shots but we didn't have another professional option in house.
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Grabbed someone like Fleury for a 1st and then had him post a .906 in the postseason? That would've been right?

Sitting Jack for the next game after he got pumped, even though he came back and won the next game?

Not on board with these decisions for obvious reasons.
 
In the play-offs you cannot afford to get pumped. You need to have a back-up that can stand up and get the team back in the game, or at least give them their best opportunity. Mrazek/Kallgren were not good enough to do so. Maybe Woll gets there, but you want your young guys to force you to make tough decisions with your starters - NOT rely on them to improve on your pro roster.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Grabbed someone like Fleury for a 1st and then had him post a .906 in the postseason? That would've been right?
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I wouldn't have played a struggling Fleury for 5 games either. That's the point of having 2 guys who are average or better, if one shits the bed, play the other one. It's way better than riding Jack to an 880 across the final 4 games of the series, or Fleury to similar over the final 3 games of Minnesota's series.
 
BG said:
In the play-offs you cannot afford to get pumped. You need to have a back-up that can stand up and get the team back in the game, or at least give them their best opportunity. Mrazek/Kallgren were not good enough to do so. Maybe Woll gets there, but you want your young guys to force you to make tough decisions with your starters - NOT rely on them to improve on your pro roster.
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Yeah, we basically forfeited game 4. Keefe knew he didn't have a functioning NHL backup, so he left Jack in too long (probably should have pulled him after 3 goals in the first 8 minutes, whether it was Jack's fault or not).

Stabilizing that game early maybe gives us a chance to come back. Series was 2-1 at that point, a comeback win would have been massive.
 
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