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TML? More like FML, amirite? Yet Another Off Season Thread

CH1 said:
Good luck finding a better GM
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Yeah, I’d echo Artnes’s sentiment that I’d be terrified of his replacement.

It’d almost certainly be an old warhorse that’s universally recognized as a “good hockey man” and card carrying member of the NHL old boys club. Which almost certainly will be a complete disaster.

It is what it is, though. To avoid that fate, just win Dubie.
 
The narrative will certainly be that the data driven operation/strategy was a failure and they need to go a different direction. For them to fire Dubas and turn around to hire another nerd? I just don't see it. That's not how hockey teams work and boomer ownership certainly would not sign off on that. even if Shanny truly believes in nerds.
 
LeafGm said:
Yeah, I’d echo Artnes’s sentiment that I’d be terrified of his replacement.

It’d almost certainly be an old warhorse that’s universally recognized as a “good hockey man” and card carrying member of the NHL old boys club. Which almost certainly will be a complete disaster.

It is what it is, though. To avoid that fate, just win Dubie.
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i hope you’re right but I don’t think it will be an old schooler; just someone who has a different approach to analytics.
Sure hockey has a lot of Neanderthals but analytics aren’t going anywhere; they’re just going to get better.
 
I think if it's another 1st round exit it will be 30/70 between a 1 year extension and firing. But yeah, the "just win" thing applies here.
 
I'm confident that this org won't hire dinosaurs going forward.

And GM talent isn't rare like player talent is.
 
Also think a lot will depend on goaltending. If Samsonov and Murray suck ass and Dubas does nothing to correct it and it leads to another failed season, my percentages go to 90% or more that he's gone after the season. He is putting his job on the line for these two guys.
 
Artnes said:
No BS call on Holl and everyone is likely singing a different tune.

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Well then we'd suddenly hear "Winning a round" is not a big deal. It's pretty fucking embarrassing people ranting about teams winning a first round and they say we plan parades.
This became a "Thing" when Leafs stopped winning rounds.

1992 Pat Burns has to leave the Habs because of the horrific embarrassment of being swept in the 2nd round. Things have changed...
 
CH1 said:
that Dubas needs to prove himself to get another contract

players failing to execute during key moments is not really a GMs fault
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I don’t know if I agree with this after six straight years of disappointment. While it’s the players that play the games, the GM can’t just sit and watch that his vision will eventually work.

That’s always confused me about Dubas. He seems smarter than the troglodytes like Bergevin yet falls for the same issue, loving his own design.
 
It really hasn’t been six straight years of disappointment and Dubas hasn’t been the GM that long. Like no one was actually disappointed when we came off a last place finish and took the Prez Trophy winner to 7.
 
hockeylover said:
It really hasn’t been six straight years of disappointment and Dubas hasn’t been the GM that long. Like no one was actually disappointed when we came off a last place finish and took the Prez Trophy winner to 7.
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Minor correction:

That series only went to game 6. But five out of the six games were decided in OT. And yeah, in that first year the fact that they were even in the playoffs at all was found money.

At the same time, there was a bit of a choke job that season too. After they clinched against Pittsburgh, they had one game left against a Columbus team that was sitting a bunch of regulars. If they’d won, they’d have gotten Ottawa in the first round. Instead they lost and got stuck with the Caps.
 
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