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Trade Deadline Thread

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hockeylover said:
Is there any way for Dubas and Keefe to redeem themselves here for you guys or have they lost you even if they had a long playoff run?
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A Cup win would cure all ills for me.

Or, at the very least, a run at least three rounds deep where Keefe & Dubas’s favourites (particularly Kerfoot), goalies & deadline acquisitions have a strong showing for us during the playoff run.
 
LeafGm said:
A Cup win would cure all ills for me.

Or, at the very least, a run at least three rounds deep where Keefe & Dubas’s favourites (particularly Kerfoot), goalies & deadline acquisitions have a strong showing for us during the playoff run.
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True, if Kerf and Jarnkrok prove to be key depth and their 8 goals 112 playoff career playoff games was just an anomaly that only Dubas could figure out then I'll give them credit. And if Schenn becomes a legit top 4 d with sparking analytics and earns his top 4 minutes and the spot over Liljegren then you know what.. Maybe Kyle is a genius. I'd accept all that shit.
 
hockeylover said:
Is there any way for Dubas and Keefe to redeem themselves here for you guys or have they lost you even if they had a long playoff run?
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If they win a cup? Then of course all criticism are off the table for me. In fact they get extra points. They won a cup, have an extra first to work with, and got Boston to waste assets on Bertuzzi.
 
For me, it’s less the production and more about not being fucking passengers or liabilities. Kerfoot, Galy, sandin have all been on the wrong end of bad plays that directly resulted in playoff losses. Beyond the lack of production, Their depth guys have been terrible at the worst possible times.
 
Preston said:
True, if Kerf and Jarnkrok prove to be key depth and their 8 goals 112 playoff career playoff games was just an anomaly that only Dubas could figure out then I'll give them credit. And if Schenn becomes a legit top 4 d with sparking analytics and earns his top 4 minutes and the spot over Liljegren then you know what.. Maybe Kyle is a genius. I'd accept all that shit.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Kerf 2.0. A strong playoff showing from him would also be a necessary ingredient for a Dubas redemption tour.

Because $5.6M combined for Yarncock & Kerfoot. Christ.
 
Its not to say Dubas is definitely right. Personally, I would have had a much different deadline, left the D alone and added more skill up front. But it just wasn't an anti-nerdies deadline.

Purely by the nerdies most of the additions are clearly good. The majority of the guys at the bottom of the image posted above have been dumped by Dubas. And the Kerf/Engvall decision wasnt an easy one sided one. Both pass the nerd test, and not the eye test, and suck in the playoffs.
 
Yeah this isn't a Burke roster construction at all

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I like Burke with glasses. But I thought it was cleverer because he is Burke but is also a nerd. Not that he is literally Burke but wears glasses.
 
Ambiguity is the secret to what makes Burke with glasses so perfect


But anyway, just having fun with this mostly to ease off the suicidal thoughts and depression from many. I liked every move till his final 3 trades. McCabe, ROR, everything. It was all find till he decided to make the team worse and not follow that up with reinforcements when he easily could have. But that's just my opinion. Who cares now, they're still good enough to win. Just do it.


PS: You'll never convince me that Sandin and Engvall trades were analytics moves btw. That's peak delusion.
 
A lot of the criticism is from getting pounded by the Oilers and losing to the Canucks post deadline. If the Leafs swept that west coast swing - things would feel a lot different around here.
 
I guess my efforts failed to turn the GMs failures into a light situation. Fuck. It's probably a good thing that I didn't get into psychology or social work.
 
Preston said:
And if Schenn becomes a legit top 4 d with sparking analytics and earns his top 4 minutes and the spot over Liljegren then you know what.. Maybe Kyle is a genius. I'd accept all that shit.
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The team's #6-7 d-man brought here for obvious reasons has to be a Top 4 D with sparkling analytics to win you over. Huh.

That's Peak Delusion.

PS: You'll never convince me that Sandin and Engvall trades were analytics moves btw. That's peak delusion.
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as is believing 31 NHL teams are doomed and should just join the ECHL because they don't have Pierre Engvall and his 0.7 GSVA in the lineup.


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The lOl 31 nHl gMs argument never ceases to be absolute garbage. He was their best bottom 6 forward and they traded him in spite of that. Maybe because his compete level sucked and Keefe hated him and maybe that was right. But to spin it as lOl 31 nHl gMs is not gonna convince me otherwise.
 
All these years on the Jays thread mocking people for never criticizing Dubas. Some of his biggest defenders finally do it and all of a sudden that's outrageous. I think you're just a contrarian.
 
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