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2022-23 Canes Misc. Thread

Both locations I’ve been to, near Dulles Airport and the Portland, OR suburbs are visible from highways. The Virginia location is surrounded by an inside trial park, but also has an I Fly indoor skydiving building.
Yeah, for Top Golf the huge nets during the day and the lighting on the structure at night are basically all they need if they're on an Interstate. Plus, that land is always cheap and usually unsuited for anything other than scruffy industrial/distribution use.
 
That works as advertisement as well. Just about any golfer will know what the extremely high fencing is for even if they don't know that there is a Top Golf (or similar) located right there
 
Dundon's Top Golf off Paige Road is now over 2 years behind schedule, caught behind a bunch of red tape in Durham County. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see it scrapped and moved to PNC. They are still a good 6 months to a year from opening. And that's being optimistic. Although the PNC property would put it WAY too close to Drive Shack.
 
I don’t remember seeing this in March. You might remember they Chuck Kaiton came back to PNC for the first time since 2018 on Whalers Night. Colin Madewell from Canes Home Ice wrote about him.

 
2 news items today.

The Canes, Centennial Authority and NC State will hold a presser tomorrow morning. Expect renovations timeline and Canes lease extension.

The Canes will play in a rookie showcase in Estero, FL, hosted by the Panthers that will also involve the Lightning and Preds. Each team will play the others over 4 days starting on September 15.
 
Canes lease extension through 2044 with an opt out in 2039. Canes start paying $4.5 million in rent starting in 2029, previously they had been rent free, not only in Habs fans heads but to the Authority.

Per DeCock

Also in first phase: 100k sq ft retail/restaurant, 150k sq ft office space, 150-room hotel, sportsbook, 200 housing units (10 percent workforce affordable). Minimum of $200 million. Hurricanes will pay 6 percent of land value to authority as ground lease, through 2096.

 
We are still going to have people claim Dundon is moving the Canes to Houston.
In terms of State football fans with a tailgate fetish, we're now shifting gears into people actually rooting for him to move the team. And it's not about Dundon even though he's going to be the target ... it's the parking decks. There's a big chunk of State's fan base that is PISSED right now.

I'm not one of them, for the record. When my Dad is gone, I'm going to be done with big ticket college sports.
 
The Canes will play in a rookie showcase in Estero, FL, hosted by the Panthers that will also involve the Lightning and Preds. Each team will play the others over 4 days starting on September 15.
On this ... I saw a blog while I was out of town last week indicating that it's believed that the Canes, Panthers and Lightning have agreed to a hosting rotation for a pre season rookie tournament. Makes sense. Keeps it regional and spreads the hosting costs out. IIRC the blogger was a Bolts guy. I haven't seen anything local, but that could just mean that the 3 people who pay attention to these things in Raleigh haven't picked up on it yet.
 
Any idea of how long the renovation will take? 10 years? 15? Are blueprints even drawn up yet? Or do the various county/town councils need to yell about it first? Of course, that will be a huge boat anchor to the progress of the plan if it needs to happen yet.
 
Any idea of how long the renovation will take? 10 years? 15? Are blueprints even drawn up yet? Or do the various county/town councils need to yell about it first? Of course, that will be a huge boat anchor to the progress of the plan if it needs to happen yet.
There's a baseline arena renovation plan already in place and since it's State land it's a State Construction approval process, which is fairly streamlined as these things go. Much more time efficient than your standard City of Raleigh/Wake County approval process ... much less the nightmare that is Town of Cary, saints preserve us. At this stage the cities and the county have had all the input they get ... aside from any roadway changes that might be required and even then that's mostly NCDOT in that corridor. Not sure about the status of a master development plan, but the Authority has had the budget to spend on that for several years now so I'be be surprised if the basics aren't already in place. From there, you're talking completing the construction drawings and documents and then mobilization. We're not talking 10 years, for sure ... probably more like 3-4 years on the baseline stuff. My guess is this will be four or five distinct phases or entirely separate projects, with the whole magilla done in maybe 5-6 years. If they're further along on the master plan and have done some preliminary work on the retail element, you could maybe shave a year or two off of that. Depends on how much they've gotten done up front.
 
In terms of State football fans with a tailgate fetish, we're now shifting gears into people actually rooting for him to move the team. And it's not about Dundon even though he's going to be the target ... it's the parking decks. There's a big chunk of State's fan base that is PISSED right now.

I'm not one of them, for the record. When my Dad is gone, I'm going to be done with big ticket college sports.
It's already out there and already annoying as F! The whole "Canes&Dundon will ruin the tailgating because of parking decks agenda" will now be the central storyline for the foreseeable future. Some of these people only can understand, grasp and equate growth of any kind with their stomachs and waistlines...

It seems that there is enough thought and consideration already been given to preserve quite a bit of tailgating area areas even with development:

  • Parking: Gale Force commits to replace at least 95% of the parking lost during each development phase and commits to keep at least 50% of surface parking on-site. Parking decks can be built.

    "It's like the best and worst problem in the world to have," Corrigan said. "We have unbelievable parking, as good a parking as there is in college football. We're going to lose some. It's going to re-purpose, but we still have an awful lot of parking. And we have time."
  • Tailgating zone: No vertical development shall occur in a five-acre tailgate zone for NC State football games. That space has not yet been defined, Corrigan said.

    Wake County Commissioner Vickie Adamson said she's heard from lots of NC State fans worried about tailgating spots. "NC State football fans who like to tailgate, we love you and we are not going to forget about you," she said during a work session Monday.
 
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The $1 billion renovation at Madison Square Garden was primarily done over 3 off-seasons, starting in 2011. The New York Liberty WNBA team had to relocate, since they play a summer schedule.
 
In terms of State football fans with a tailgate fetish, we're now shifting gears into people actually rooting for him to move the team. And it's not about Dundon even though he's going to be the target ... it's the parking decks. There's a big chunk of State's fan base that is PISSED right now.

I'm not one of them, for the record. When my Dad is gone, I'm going to be done with big ticket college sports.
Honestly, fuck NCSU fans. No one besides them cares about their delusional fantasies of ever becoming a division 1 contender in ANY sport. And the drunk tailgating contingent only care about getting wasted and sleeping in a tent until someone wakes them up when it's time to go home. Not one person in charge of writing million dollar checks give two shits about these whiners.
 
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