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2023-24 Canes Misc Thread

WRAL posted a relatively in-depth story about this yesterday...

Thanks for that, it’s pretty good. To me, the biggest thing is that Backyard Bistro isn’t a default for the sports book until PNC Arena is ready. There are storage and security considerations that might be had to retrofit into an existing footprint.

The original plan was to use the restaurant as the retail sportsbook. But under rules adopted by the North Carolina Lottery Commission, retail sportsbooks must include a cage, count rooms, vaults and other restricted areas that are subject to surveillance. The cage, where money is held, must be fully enclosed.
 
Me: $100 on the Hurricanes to win the Cup.
Fanatics: $1000 on Lethbridge!

I had to post my own joke - because I amuse me.


I liked this part:
"There are customers who prefer to bet in person, just like there are people who prefer to bank in person," Borod said. "So you want to be able to serve all your customers the best way you can."

I mean, yeah, but they're almost all over 70 and probably are still mad that hockey players wear helmets. ;)
 
Thanks for that, it’s pretty good. To me, the biggest thing is that Backyard Bistro isn’t a default for the sports book until PNC Arena is ready. There are storage and security considerations that might be had to retrofit into an existing footprint.
It's gonna be a LOT cheaper to make those modifications at the restaurant than in any of the public spaces in the arena building. Based on what I heard the other night, if it's structural (and this would be), it ain't happening. Keep in mind, construction costs have gone up 30 to 40-ish percent since the initial budgets were done. At the restaurant all they have to do is add the vault, do some partition work and upgrade the security features ... in a ground level one story building ... which is easy peasy as these things go.

I'm thinking you MIGHT eventually see the sports book moved to a new restaurant/bar building in the entertainment district. Especially if they can get somebody else to pay for it, like the vendor. Until then, Backyard Bistro is fine.
 
It's gonna be a LOT cheaper to make those modifications at the restaurant than in any of the public spaces in the arena building. Based on what I heard the other night, if it's structural (and this would be), it ain't happening. Keep in mind, construction costs have gone up 30 to 40-ish percent since the initial budgets were done. At the restaurant all they have to do is add the vault, do some partition work and upgrade the security features ... in a ground level one story building ... which is easy peasy as these things go.

I'm thinking you MIGHT eventually see the sports book moved to a new restaurant/bar building in the entertainment district. Especially if they can get somebody else to pay for it, like the vendor. Until then, Backyard Bistro is fine.
You’re the construction guy, I’m just a bean counter. But a vault and other things sounds like structural changes at the restaurant too.
 
You’re the construction guy, I’m just a bean counter. But a vault and other things sounds like structural changes at the restaurant too.
Nah. We're just dealing with a gap in semantics. You'd have to add a reinforced slab and some other minor stuff for the vault at the restaurant but that's no hot shakes and the rest would be interior partition work. Any real configuration changes in the arena would require structural steel and concrete work. Expensive, time consuming, design heavy. Modifications to Backyard Bistro by comparison are a piece of cake. Our in house aging metalhead architect can back me up.
 
Nah. We're just dealing with a gap in semantics. You'd have to add a reinforced slab and some other minor stuff for the vault at the restaurant but that's no hot shakes and the rest would be interior partition work. Any real configuration changes in the arena would require structural steel and concrete work. Expensive, time consuming, design heavy. Modifications to Backyard Bistro by comparison are a piece of cake. Our in house aging metalhead architect can back me up.
Shay what shonny?
 
Hopefully Koochie taking a few days off will do wonders for his melon and he is back practicing at some point next week...because Good Heavens anything long term right now is downright scary.
 
Waddell said Freddie would be ready in a month in an article I read about a month ago(mid-December), but I haven't heard or seen anything since that confirms that timeline.
 
I normally have confidence in GMDW's decisions, but I think he has mid-managed this goalie situation. Especially for a team that needs to go far I the playoffs again. He seems to be waiting to see what happens with Freddie and now PK instead of being somewhat proactive.
 
I normally have confidence in GMDW's decisions, but I think he has mid-managed this goalie situation. Especially for a team that needs to go far I the playoffs again. He seems to be waiting to see what happens with Freddie and now PK instead of being somewhat proactive.
Sorry for the bold-not good with some of the tech
 
I think it remains to be seen. Not going to find a high level replacement. PK has been very solid. We don’t know anything about Freddie’s status. Raanta has seemed better. You can make a just in case move but there’s no rush on that. What they’ve been doing has been working.
 
Again, I'm not saying you definitely need a high level replacement. Just that you absolutely need three guys you'd trust to take an NHL start. If Kochetkov is out for even a week, then that's a week when you have ... one. And that one was a guy nobody trusted to take an NHL start just a couple of weeks ago. Not a great place to be in.
 
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