Sal_Butera
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These playoffs could be Spencer Knight’s coming out moment…
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GGpX
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Florida better hope so. Florida is, in all likelihood, getting Washington in round 1 and that shouldn't be a very long series. If Florida was going to play Bawstun in round 1, hoh boy, that wouldn't be fun for them.
GGpX
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Wilson stepping down as Sharks GM - TSN.ca
San Jose Sharks general manager Doug Wilson announced Thursday he is stepping down from his role with the team. Wilson has been on leave from the team since November.
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Doug Wilson is officially stepping down from his position.
He used to be in the shortlist of best GM in the league in the late 2000s. His contract structures were great, drafted really well, made excellent trades, and yet... He fell into the same so many short-sighted managers do: Give out crippling contracts to players in their late 20s, early 30s, or even worse, give up a ton of youth for a player that's seeing his body give up on him and then sign him to a historically bad contract. And while San Jose hasn't been drafting badly, they haven't drafted well enough to compensate for that. San Jose is now stuck in a rut for a long time.
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Like, fuck me. Vlasic (35) has 4 more years at $7M, Burns (37) has 3 more years at $8M and Karlsson (31) has 5 more years at $11.5M.
All of those contracts are buyout-proof.
Jesus. Not to mention that new, dreadful contract they gave out to Hertl.
Yeah, they're not going to be any good, any time soon.
All of those contracts are buyout-proof.
Jesus. Not to mention that new, dreadful contract they gave out to Hertl.
Yeah, they're not going to be any good, any time soon.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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None of that would have been so bad if the Sharks had been able to win even a single Cup. But they put way too much faith in career underachievers like Marleau and Thornton to get them over the hump and the results were entirely predictable. Both players have been losers wherever they've played. Meaningless personal stats that padded their bank accounts but they didn't move the needle for any of their teams and their contracts prevented their teams from progressing.
Wilson stepping down as Sharks GM - TSN.ca
San Jose Sharks general manager Doug Wilson announced Thursday he is stepping down from his role with the team. Wilson has been on leave from the team since November.
Doug Wilson is officially stepping down from his position.
He used to be in the shortlist of best GM in the league in the late 2000s. His contract structures were great, drafted really well, made excellent trades, and yet... He fell into the same so many short-sighted managers do: Give out crippling contracts to players in their late 20s, early 30s, or even worse, give up a ton of youth for a player that's seeing his body give up on him and then sign him to a historically bad contract. And while San Jose hasn't been drafting badly, they haven't drafted well enough to compensate for that. San Jose is now stuck in a rut for a long time.
He was a great a GM until he went to the Bergevin school of handing out vet contracts
The EK one was beyond stupid , he was already finished and team was no longer contending
I dont understand handing out 8 years when they should be 4 , let it be some one else`s mistake
If these are underachievers , WTF is a good player
They arent Sid or Kane but will be in the HOF
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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They are "accumulators" of points. But neither of them get a team to the next level. The Bruins realized this about Jumbo Joe and got rid of him. They subsequently won a Cup while Joe and the Sharks underachieved. Marleau had his captaincy stripped by the Sharks, but when he went to the Leafs, he (like Jumbo) were touted as the "leadership" needed to get Toronto over the hump. Why, I will never know.
Thornton and Marleau are talented and will go to the Hall of Fame, but that doesn't make them winners. They do not elevate either themselves or their teammates when it matters. If you can't produce in the clutch then you may as well be a 4th line grinder or a bottom pair defenseman. Teams that waste cap space on accumulators don't win Cups. Right now, Matthews and Marner are nothing more than accumulators because they don't show up when it matters. That's what you pay big money for: clutch performers. Boston realized this, Toronto and San Jose did not.
99.9 % of the league are Point accumulators
hockeylover
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Man, you’d probably end up trading quite a few now legendary players if you gave up on every star who didn’t have playoff success by 24.
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I wouldn't give up on them that young but by the time Thornton was dealt to San Jose he was 26 or 27, had been with the Bruins for 8 years and had amassed a grand total of 18 playoff points for his career. This, from a supposed "leader". Marleau also was never close to being a point a game player in the postseason.
Its a team game , SJ had a hell of a 10-12 year competitive run
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Cup banners in the rafters. Everything else is failure. It's only a matter of degree.
Your bar is way way too high , there is 1 cup to go around
Many hall of famers wont sniff a cup
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And they inevitably play for teams I hate, like the Leafs, so I use it as the standard for measuring excellence.
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for what , I am disagreeing with Wehave
GrandWazoo
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Marleau and Thornton, and the Sharks to an extent, carried a reputation of choke artists in the playoffs, so WeHave is not completely off on this one.
During the 12 years both played together, they made the finals once (at 36 years old) and the conference finals twice, being swept by the Hawks and losing 4-1 to Vancouver. They were regularly the victims of upsets, none bigger than 2009 when the won the West but lost in the first round to Anaheim.
During the 12 years both played together, they made the finals once (at 36 years old) and the conference finals twice, being swept by the Hawks and losing 4-1 to Vancouver. They were regularly the victims of upsets, none bigger than 2009 when the won the West but lost in the first round to Anaheim.
Agreed , but in a cap world to be playoff competitive/contending over a decade is great
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And when a team has such a reputation, you look at the leadership for answers, not the third pairing defenseman or the fourth line winger. The team failed because it's leadership core failed. And like Waz says, Marleau and Jumbo were together for a dozen years. Now Leafs fans are trying to convince themselves that their window is going to be open indefinitely with Marner and Matthews. But the likelihood is that they will have the same mediocre results that the Sharks had. Lots of gaudy numbers punctuated by playoff bombs.