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We’ll see what the evidence, or what's left of it, shows. I’m still skeptical they’ll ever go to prison . . . but we’ll see. These kinds of cases are VERY hard to prove ordinarily.
well according to guys like Westhead and others, it's a slam dunk. You and I know differently as we actually understand law and how the legal process works.
 
We’ll see what the evidence, or what's left of it, shows. I’m still skeptical they’ll ever go to prison . . . but we’ll see. These kinds of cases are VERY hard to prove ordinarily.
Well, according to those who shall remain nameless, they're already guilty and the laws of the land shouldn't apply to them.
 
I actually disagree.

Talent is scarce relative to soccer. Sure. But so is every other sport on the planet.

But you know a sport that actual has a scarcity of talent? Basketball. If you aren't 6'4" or so, your chances of making the NBA are virtually non-existent. And even then, 6'4" in the NBA ain't big.

Yeah. And guess what? 2nd stringers get paid a lot more than NHL superstars
 
Your point being? Besides that different sports have different economics.

My point is the same — the NHL, given the potential talent base, should not have as many teams as NFL or MLB.

You’re right that God doesn’t make too many 6’10 human beings but NBA rosters are half the size and the game is played all over the world
 
From a business standpoint your point doesn't hit the top 100. Your opinion is derived from a skill viewpoint, middling talent still puts butts in seats.
 
My point is the same — the NHL, given the potential talent base, should not have as many teams as NFL or MLB.

You’re right that God doesn’t make too many 6’10 human beings but NBA rosters are half the size and the game is played all over the world
And the NBA's economics are related how, exactly...?

More popular sport with more viewership and more sponsorship make more money. Sounds like it's a direct correlation for players getting paid more to me.

Unless I'm missing something, I still don't know what the point of bringing up the NBA's pay structure is.

You say that when you get to the twenties in an NHL draft, you're hoping for a third liner. And as opposed to the NBA draft, where teams hope to get a useful bench guy and the draft doesn't go beyond the second round because the amount of players making the league is so low?
 
You have it the other way around, btw.

If the leagues actually cared about the quality of the product, the NHL wouldn't be the league that shouldn't be on the same footing as the others: It should be the NBA.

The overall NHL game has gotten incredibly better, despite the NHL's shitty rulesets. The NBA just sucks if you don't have one of the five or so best players on the team because you know for a fact that your team's not winning. It's not a coincidence that during his prime, LeBron's teams were a guarantee to make the finals. That would be inconceivable in any other league.
 

While he might be right and they're not willing to go all in, they would be ridiculous not to.

New York's core of forwards are all in their primes (or end of their primes) and in their thirties.

Meaning, they don't have many shots left at this. Their opportunity is right now and their inaction, if that's the path they choose to go down, will kill all possible chance they have.
 
You have it the other way around, btw.

If the leagues actually cared about the quality of the product, the NHL wouldn't be the league that shouldn't be on the same footing as the others: It should be the NBA.

The overall NHL game has gotten incredibly better, despite the NHL's shitty rulesets. The NBA just sucks if you don't have one of the five or so best players on the team because you know for a fact that your team's not winning. It's not a coincidence that during his prime, LeBron's teams were a guarantee to make the finals. That would be inconceivable in any other league.

so you agree the NHL shouldn't have a many teams as MLB or NFL
 
While he might be right and they're not willing to go all in, they would be ridiculous not to.

New York's core of forwards are all in their primes (or end of their primes) and in their thirties.

Meaning, they don't have many shots left at this. Their opportunity is right now and their inaction, if that's the path they choose to go down, will kill all possible chance they have.

And there’s almost a zero sum kind of thing among the top 5 or 6 contenders. Not only do they deprive themselves of veteran depth (and it need not just be Monahan, it could be someone else), but one of the contenders likely gets that player.

Monahan would suit Boston perfectly, though maybe the Habs don’t trade him to a historic rival.
 
At this point, I'm not even sure what you're trying to get at.

Only thing I've said is there's one league that should have less teams than it does: the NBA.

The NHL can afford to have more teams, if it so chose. The NBA cannot, under any circumstances, add more teams and hope to keep the same quality of basketball.
 
And there’s almost a zero sum kind of thing among the top 5 or 6 contenders. Not only do they deprive themselves of veteran depth (and it need not just be Monahan, it could be someone else), but one of the contenders likely gets that player.

Monahan would suit Boston perfectly, though maybe the Habs don’t trade him to a historic rival.
I wouldn't trade him to Bawstun simply because they have almost nothing of interest for me. If they had interesting pieces, I'd consider them. Someone mentioned in one of the threads that they're looking to get a prospect back for Monahan. If that's the case, there's a real limit in what we'd accept as a return. I don't see how we'd accept to trade Monahan for a prospect on defense. We just don't have the space for one. So that would mean trading him for a goalie prospect (we already seem to have a bunch there) or a forward prospect (a barren wasteland).

Of the Bawstun / Colorado / Winnipeg three, Winnipeg has the most interesting potential return. All three of them have first round picks available (Bawstun's 1st would come in 2025, though) and if they offered a first round pick, I'd trade Monahan immediately.
 
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