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No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

I wouldn’t get too excited about Mitch turning down that deal. Plenty of reasons to do that aside from a legitimate desire to re-sign here.

Honestly, I’m just shocked Treliving had the balls to ask. Just too bad he didn’t find the stones to do it before Mitch’s NMC kicked in.

Also pretty funny to see it play out like this, when I was assured for years that I was wrong to firmly believe that Mitch or Tavares would refuse to waive in exactly this kind of scenario.
 
So leafs players are the only ones that can't stand the idea of moving.

And then, weirdly, as soon as the contract ends they're ready to move away pronto.
 
zeke said:
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Some possibilities, off the top of my head:


Carolina isn’t a destination he’s interested in signing with and he didn’t want to be a rental.

He doesn’t want to suddenly uproot his heavily pregnant wife for a mid-season trade he has the power to stop.

He wants to take one last crack at winning here with this group before walking out the door and/or he thinks this year’s Leafs have a better chance to win than this year’s ‘Canes.

Spite - he feels wronged by the organization and/or the fans. Whether it’s for slights real & imagined, or the Leafs not immediately being willing to pay him whatever he wants. So he’d rather they get nothing for him than facilitate a trade for a guy who could end up being an upgrade.
 
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LeafGm said:
Some possibilities, off the top of my head:


Carolina isn’t a destination he’s interested in signing with and he didn’t want to be a rental.
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But he wants to be a rental here?


LeafGm said:
He doesn’t want to suddenly uproot his heavily pregnant wife for a mid-season trade he has the power to stop.
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But then will uproot his newborn in the offseason no probs.

LeafGm said:
He wants to take one last crack at winning here with this group before walking out the door and/or he thinks this year’s Leafs have a better chance to win than this year’s ‘Canes.
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So he wants to stay but doesn't want to stay. He wants to win and thinks the leafs give him a great chance to win but will leave for the highesy bidder in 2 months.

LeafGm said:
Spite - he feels wronged by the organization and/or the fans. Whether it’s for slights real & imagined, or the Leafs not immediately being willing to pay him whatever he wants. So he’d rather they get nothing for him than facilitate a trade for a guy who could end up being an upgrade.
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Fair - he may just want to fuck over the team that's paid him more than all his comparables. He could just be a complete fuck. Definitely possoble.
 
zeke said:
So leafs players are the only ones that can't stand the idea of moving.

And then, weirdly, as soon as the contract ends they're ready to move away pronto.
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No. Plenty of players invoke their NMC. Leaf players are the only ones you and (most of) the media care about.
 
I liked that it said....they told him because they wanted to respect his choice. And that's when they said..because we'd prefer to sign you
 
zeke said:
our dcorps seems locked in for a few years.

offseason will be all about forwards.
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I think 85 percent chance of a new GM (and president) leaving anything is on the table next summer.

I would hope they try everything possible to get rid of MR this summer. That contract is going to age horribly. Not sure who is available to target instead, but want the guy off the team asap before the league realizes his contract sucks too
 
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LeafGm said:
I wouldn’t get too excited about Mitch turning down that deal. Plenty of reasons to do that aside from a legitimate desire to re-sign here.

Honestly, I’m just shocked Treliving had the balls to ask. Just too bad he didn’t find the stones to do it before Mitch’s NMC kicked in.

Also pretty funny to see it play out like this, when I was assured for years that I was wrong to firmly believe that Mitch or Tavares would refuse to waive in exactly this kind of scenario.
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Dubas was the GM when the NMC kicked in
 
soco22 said:
I think 85 percent chance of a new GM (and president) leaving anything is on the table next summer.

I would hope they try everything possible to get rid of MR this summer. That contract is going to age horribly. Not sure who is available to target instead, but want the guy off the team asap before the league realizes his contract sucks too
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It’s not looking good for mo. It’s totally possible he bounces back but I don’t want the leafs to take that chance.
 
soco22 said:
Dubas was the GM when the NMC kicked in
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Nope. His NMC kicked in on July 1st, 2023.

Dubas was fired on May 19, 2023, Treliving was officially hired on May 31st.

So you can argue it would have been a bold move trading Mitch essentially right after being hired. But the fact remains he did still have an entire month where he had the opportunity.
 
LeafGm said:
Nope. His NMC kicked in on July 1st, 2023.

Dubas was fired on May 19, 2023, Treliving was officially hired on May 31st.

So you can argue it would have been a bold move trading Mitch essentially right after being hired. But the fact remains he did still have an entire month where he had the opportunity.
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Yeh, I guess. I would put the real decision on Dubas. Cant negotiate the trade of Marner in 4 weeks coming into the office without it likely going horribly wrong. Though technically, you’re right there was a month.
 
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