Wayward DP
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dear lord
OT: The Toronto Blue Jays
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UWHabs
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Yeah, he's still really raw in terms of pro innings. But he is already 23, so in that sense, it's not like you're rushing a 19 year old kid to the bigs.
manny
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Manoah should be in the majors because he is MLB ready and simply wasting innings in the minors. Striking out 2 per inning in AAA isn’t going to make him a better pitcher long term.
Also years of control is basically a non-issue for pitchers, but they have the same amount if control if they call him up now or if he makes the team next Spring.
Also years of control is basically a non-issue for pitchers, but they have the same amount if control if they call him up now or if he makes the team next Spring.
axlsalinger
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It's not about control, it's solely the fact that Manoah has about 5 minutes of pro baseball experience.
I don't really buy the argument that getting called up too soon would "ruin" him or anything, but at least let him dominate for another start or two and work on his game till he's ready for prime time. It sucks that there were no minor league games in 2020, but the fact remains there were none. He'll be up soon, don't worry.
I don't really buy the argument that getting called up too soon would "ruin" him or anything, but at least let him dominate for another start or two and work on his game till he's ready for prime time. It sucks that there were no minor league games in 2020, but the fact remains there were none. He'll be up soon, don't worry.
Manny how is years of control different for pitchers ?
manny
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Technically it’s the same but most pitchers, even the best prospects out there, don’t make it 6 years in MLB without serious injury, dropoff in performance, or just straight up busting. Also while hitters are usually entering their primes in their late 20s, it’s not the same for pitchers. Manoah is probably in his prime right now. Everything he still has to learn, he can learn just as well in MLB.
It’s why I think you should generally call a pitcher up as soon as he’s MLB ready, rather than wait until you’ve achieved some arbitrary sense of enough time in the minors.
axlsalinger
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Double, triple, homer so far. Just needs a single.
Tampa sure has the Jays number.A nonfunctional Pearson is what hurts
Didn’t expect miracles but a legit 3 would of been nice this year
Sad to lose in the 12th last night with a grand slam
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manny
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Yeah, I'd be thinking less about improving the pitching if the pitching was already good. That's true.
No minor league season last year really skews things, and I think makes how many pro innings or pro starts a pitcher has under his belt a lot less relevant. Manoah probably would have started out in AA last year, and if he was dominant, possibly a late season call up. He didn't get to pitch in official games in 2020, but it's not like time just stopped.
The loss of the minor league season last year was bad for prospects, but great for MLB journeymen.
Anyway, he should be up soon. A few more starts doesn't matter much either way except to the extent that it moves a few Ws from Toronto to Buffalo.
No minor league season last year really skews things, and I think makes how many pro innings or pro starts a pitcher has under his belt a lot less relevant. Manoah probably would have started out in AA last year, and if he was dominant, possibly a late season call up. He didn't get to pitch in official games in 2020, but it's not like time just stopped.
The loss of the minor league season last year was bad for prospects, but great for MLB journeymen.
Anyway, he should be up soon. A few more starts doesn't matter much either way except to the extent that it moves a few Ws from Toronto to Buffalo.
