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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

MindzEye said:
The Leafs hatred is fine, the rest is silly.

Oh, and finding time to care about the CFL while calling the NBA and MLS not real is an Altair level take, congrats.
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I'm guessing the NBA would matter a lot more in his estimation if the Raptors were still a laughingstock franchise, instead of a well-run, consistently good team with a very recent championship in their back pockets.

And the funny thing about the CFL is, the last time I heard anything about that league up until right now, they were closing up shop for the pandemic and begging for a massive taxpayer funded hand-out to keep them solvent. I didn't even have an inkling they were several games into their 2021 season.
 
WellPlayed said:
Guy hates every city he moves to because people there cheer for the local team and not his team.
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I was very thankful that when I moved to Calgary, the Flames were horrible while I was there, and only had their big run jut after I moved out for Uni. Sure, the Habs sucked, but the Flames were just as bad, which I'm sure kept the taunting down.

Of course, I am a little sad that I wasn't around town while the "Red Mile" was going on. I heard stories and saw pictures, and yeah, maybe teenage me would have become a Flames fan...
 
MindzEye said:
The Leafs hatred is fine, the rest is silly.

Oh, and finding time to care about the CFL while calling the NBA and MLS not real is an Altair level take, congrats.
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I'm old enough to remember when some NBA teams played in glorified high school gymnasiums and the finals were shown by CBS...on tape delay! I'm also old enough to remember when practically every CFL game (even in Toronto) was sold out and when they could compete for players with the NFL.

And as for soccer, I find it hilarious that people who incessantly complain about diving and embellishment in hockey say nothing about the comic opera known as soccer. Any sport that players aren't engaging in physical combat is a waste of time. Soccer is for pantywaist euroweenie metrosexuals and basketball hasn't been good since the Pistons almost turned basketball into hockey 30 odd years ago.

And my hatred of the Blue Jays is valid. Back in the 70's Expos owner Charles Bronfman worked very hard trying to get Toronto approved for a franchise and years later the Blue Jays voted in favor of contracting the Expos just to eliminate their competition. So I enjoy watching them fail.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
I'm old enough to remember when some NBA teams played in glorified high school gymnasiums and the finals were shown by CBS...on tape delay! I'm also old enough to remember when practically every CFL game (even in Toronto) was sold out and when they could compete for players with the NFL.

And as for soccer, I find it hilarious that people who incessantly complain about diving and embellishment in hockey say nothing about the comic opera known as soccer. Any sport that players aren't engaging in physical combat is a waste of time. Soccer is for pantywaist euroweenie metrosexuals and basketball hasn't been good since the Pistons almost turned basketball into hockey 30 odd years ago.

And my hatred of the Blue Jays is valid. Back in the 70's Expos owner Charles Bronfman worked very hard trying to get Toronto approved for a franchise and years later the Blue Jays voted in favor of contracting the Expos just to eliminate their competition. So I enjoy watching them fail.
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I still hate the Habsburgs for conquering central Hungary in the 17th century.
 
UWHabs said:
I was very thankful that when I moved to Calgary, the Flames were horrible while I was there, and only had their big run jut after I moved out for Uni. Sure, the Habs sucked, but the Flames were just as bad, which I'm sure kept the taunting down.

Of course, I am a little sad that I wasn't around town while the "Red Mile" was going on. I heard stories and saw pictures, and yeah, maybe teenage me would have become a Flames fan...
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I was fine when the Canucks went on their 94 run. It was only the season after the Habs had won the Cup and they were playing against the Leafs in the Campbell Conference final so it was easy to root for them. Then in the finals they played Bettman's favourite team, with Keenan and Messier, two loathsome people, so again the Canucks were the lesser evil. I went to Game 6 of the finals and was waving a white towel with everyone else (I still have that towel, actually) But after that run, Canucks fan started acting like they had actually won something. They forgot their place. They got uppity. So my new hobby became reminding them of the fact that their team hadn't actually accomplished anything and that as fans of a franchise with zero Cups, they should be seen and not heard. That got easier over time, as the Canucks reverted to the mean and they once again couldn't sell out their own playoff games (when they made the playoffs, that is)

Then they got good again and went to the finals in 2011 before imploding. But just like in 94, Canucks fan felt they were entitled to a riot even though they hadn't actually won. They never learn.

With Oilers fans I don't have any trouble. Anyone under 40 doesn't really remember any of the Oilers Cup wins. For most of them, the 2006 run to the finals is the high water mark of their fandom so they tend to be more deferential. And the older fans who were around during the Gretzky era have nothing to prove to anyone so they treat fans of other Cup winning teams with a modicum of respect.
 
Aberdeen said:
I still hate the Habsburgs for conquering central Hungary in the 17th century.
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Hate makes it great, as I always say. Without hate, you may as well be watching 12 year old girls playing ringette. That's what the NHL fails to grasp as they try to constantly place teams in markets that nobody gives a shit about. I don't care enough about places like Columbus or Raleigh to hate them. And if I can't hate them then they just bore me and I stop watching. When the Habs play a road game against the Hurricanes or the Devils I find something else to watch. I refuse to watch those teams. Their very existence bores me.

The opposite of love is not hate. The opposite of love is indifference. I'm not indifferent to the Leafs or the Bruins and if the Nordiques ever came back I wouldn't be indifferent to them either. But the Blue Jackets? The Panthers? The Coyotes? Who gives a shit?
 
Rank your favourite to lease favourite cities in the world, on a scale of how big fat meanies they are to you when you wear your Habs jersey there.
 
I grew out of hating opponents when I was 10. Not gonna knock anyone for hating as I get that is a big part of the sport but it just doesn't make much sense to me at this stage. And to WeHave's point it has also caused me to care less about the end results in sports than I used to. So I agree to an extent. Hate does fuel the passion of sports fans, something I have lacked for quite awhile now. But my enjoyment of sports hasn't changed much.. I am just less emotionally involved than I used to be (which if anything, makes me enjoy it more; less stress = enjoyment).
 
Preston said:
I grew out of hating opponents when I was 10. Not gonna knock anyone for hating as I get that is a big part of the sport but it just doesn't make much sense to me at this stage. And to WeHave's point it has also caused me to care less about the end results in sports than I used to. So I agree to an extent. Hate does fuel the passion of sports fans, something I have lacked for quite awhile now. But my enjoyment of sports hasn't changed much.. I am just less emotionally involved than I used to be (which if anything, makes me enjoy it more; less stress = enjoyment).
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We get it, you're a hispter sports fan.

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If a more enjoyable experience makes me a hipster sports fan, I'll take the fuck out of that. Hatred/anger is exhausting. The pandemic has caused too much of that for me to care about hating a bunch of dudes because they wear a particular color.
 
WellPlayed said:
Rank your favourite to lease favourite cities in the world, on a scale of how big fat meanies they are to you when you wear your Habs jersey there.
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It's not about how mean they are it's about whether or not they have a right to speak in the first place. Fans of teams that haven't won a championship in their lifetime don't get to shoot their mouths off. And fans of teams who have zero championships in their trophy case? Please take a seat. You have to EARN the right to talk shit. Fans don't win championships, they win the right to rub other fans' noses in shit when their team wins championships on their behalf. When your team blows a 3-1 series lead and runs their playoff futility record to 0 for 17 years you as a fan have to take a fucking seat. That's how it works.

I realize that my team is going on 3 decades since its last Cup but since it still ranks as the most recent championship won by a Canadian team (and because we beat two Canadian teams in the playoffs last season) Habs fans can still strut their stuff north of the border for the time being. They earned that. But that's the point. As Tony Soprano famously said "You gotta earn". My issue is with fans of teams that have not earned them the right to talk shit. There are rules.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
It's not about how mean they are it's about whether or not they have a right to speak in the first place. Fans of teams that haven't won a championship in their lifetime don't get to shoot their mouths off. And fans of teams who have zero championships in their trophy case? Please take a seat. You have to EARN the right to talk shit. Fans don't win championships, they win the right to rub other fans' noses in shit when their team wins championships on their behalf. When your team blows a 3-1 series lead and runs their playoff futility record to 0 for 17 years you as a fan have to take a fucking seat. That's how it works.

I realize that my team is going on 3 decades since its last Cup but since it still ranks as the most recent championship won by a Canadian team (and because we beat two Canadian teams in the playoffs last season) Habs fans can still strut their stuff north of the border for the time being. They earned that. But that's the point. As Tony Soprano famously said "You gotta earn". My issue is with fans of teams that have not earned them the right to talk shit. There are rules.
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Sir, it's just a children's game. Calm down.
 
Preston said:
If a more enjoyable experience makes me a hipster sports fan, I'll take the fuck out of that. Hatred/anger is exhausting. The pandemic has caused too much of that for me to care about hating a bunch of dudes because they wear a particular color.
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I was only kidding. I agree with you to a point. Still find certain teams and their fans annoying but there's no more hate as I've gotten older.
 
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