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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

MON4NHLTOR4MLB said:
I just can’t see them spending past luxury and they’re already basically there without a Teo replacement
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Shapiro came out recently and said the luxury tax has no bearing on their budget.

Also, if they trade a C for an OF i cant imagine it would be an expensive one, rather a young controlled one.

Jansen for Max Kepler isn't sexy but it's an idea.
 
UWHabs said:
I remember reading somewhere that Ryu's contract is nearly fully insured so doesn't count nearly as much in the plans. I don't know how that comes into play for CBT calculations, but if that is the case, then we might have marginally more money available. But yeah, if Kiermeier is 8.5 M and Bassitt comes in at 21M, I'm guessing we can't count on an awful lot more spending.
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An insured contract still counts as part of the payroll for CBT. I don’t see them adding much more either. Also weird that Kiermaier’s number still hasn’t been reported.
 
In retrospect it probably would have been better to make a QO to Stripling. Didn’t seem like the right move at the time at all though.
 
They need to add one more good player to replace Teo's value. Doesn't have to be a hitter could be a pitcher but he has to be legit good.

At that point then I can start convincing myself that the finesse upgrades like Kiermaier over the tapzimley beast and the bullpen add(s) plus kids will make us significantly better.
 
zeke said:
They need to add one more good player to replace Teo's value. Doesn't have to be a hitter could be a pitcher but he has to be legit good.

At that point then I can start convincing myself that the finesse upgrades like Kiermaier over the tapzimley beast and the bullpen add(s) plus kids will make us significantly better.
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Conforto + C return good enough for you?
 
Nice deal.

Yea they still gotta add another OF. Go all in now. Get Conforto or Benintendi. Add another starter. Bring back Stripling? Or trade for another legit starter or OF.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
please provide an example of his lies
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The whole point of talking like a lawyer is that you never actually lie. When the Jays don't go into the luxury tax this year, he and Atkins will spin more lawyer talk about assessed risk vs shared risk and the nexus of those two things being the main determinants of acceptable risk and even our FI Lawyers will ask wtf these guys are talking about.
 
I don't see them going Conforto - a lot of risk in a guy who missed last year and wasn't great in 2021. I bet he still asks for decent money, if we have the money to spend, I'd rather use it on like Taylor Rogers and just trust my luck with waiver wire fodder in the OF if we want to take a ballsy gamble.

If he comes relatively healthy, Brantley would be the good addition. He's about as stable a bet as any to hit .290-.300 with a .360-.370 OBP as anyone out there. D is terrible by this point, but you only need him like 40-50 games in LF and then as a DH the rest of the time.

It is a tough year to want an OF. I mean, we're almost at the point of wanting Gallo, which shows how bad the options out there are. Would be really nice if we could pull something out of the C deal to fill that hole...
 
UWHabs said:
I don't see them going Conforto - a lot of risk in a guy who missed last year and wasn't great in 2021. I bet he still asks for decent money, if we have the money to spend, I'd rather use it on like Taylor Rogers and just trust my luck with waiver wire fodder in the OF if we want to take a ballsy gamble.

If he comes relatively healthy, Brantley would be the good addition. He's about as stable a bet as any to hit .290-.300 with a .360-.370 OBP as anyone out there. D is terrible by this point, but you only need him like 40-50 games in LF and then as a DH the rest of the time.

It is a tough year to want an OF. I mean, we're almost at the point of wanting Gallo, which shows how bad the options out there are. Would be really nice if we could pull something out of the C deal to fill that hole...
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I cant understand not liking Conforto, but digging Brantley. Same bum shoulder, worse D ( like unplayable vs avg at worst), and Branley is 2 years older from when we wanted him. He could be legit roasted. I like him, but much prefer Conforto or Gallo ( ik ik, fuck off, he good)

Trade market is still a thing, and dealing a C for a SP is still possible but i have to think it's for an OF.

Zona- Varsho ( fuck yes, but costs Kirk or Moreno), A Thomas ( sigh, i'd rather not), McCarthy ( no)
Cleveland- Valera ( if it must be a prospect, sure, but, no)
Houston- McCormick ( okay, but now add to this, and i'm interested
San Diego- Grisham ( not sexy, but, maybe?)
Cubs- Ian Happ ( i think Jansen for Happ is the best idea here so far)
Marlins- ( i only see SP)
Rays-( ugh, dont trade with Tampa)
Red Sox- ( Jansen for Verdugo?, meh, no)
White Sox- ( Eloy?)
Pirates- ( Would probably need a 3 way to get Reynolds for a C)
Tigers- ( Meadows?)
 
Bass it is a solid pick up. Just a reliable mid-bottom of the rotation arm like Buhrle. Assuming Berrios rebounds they have a very good rotation.

the pen was by far this teams weakness though. They still have to address it. Other than that swapping Sterling for Bassit and Teoscar for a similar lefty bat doesn’t move the needle a whole lot. Especially if that bat isn’t as good as Teoscar.
 
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