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Trade Deadline 2014

If they don't get rid of Therrien then they may as well trade Subban because he's never going to get a fair shake here.

And Babpenis is no better. Don't come and tell me that Marc-Edouard Vlasic is better or even more "defensively responsible" than PK. From the little I saw and everything I read, Vlasic produced more turnovers than a bakery during this tournament.

Rational as always.

Regardless of MT, you don't trade Subban. The thought of that is ridiculous.
 
he should if we dont ruin him like we did others

the start of next year he should be taking over as the number 1 center and getting first wave of pp time

no need to spend 300 posts on who he should replace in time

Who have we ruined? If you're reffering to Subban. Need I remind you that he won the Norris last season. That's hardly a "ruin".
 
If they don't get rid of Therrien then they may as well trade Subban because he's never going to get a fair shake here.

And Babpenis is no better. Don't come and tell me that Marc-Edouard Vlasic is better or even more "defensively responsible" than PK. From the little I saw and everything I read, Vlasic produced more turnovers than a bakery during this tournament.

Really? I thought Vlasic played very well. Much as I would have liked to have seen Subban play more the Defense was rock solid. 3 goals against in 6 games with none scored in the semi final and gold medal games. You can't play better defense than that. I thought Babcock did a hell of a coaching job. We won the Gold medal man - its all good...
 
we all love PK but this defensive core was excellent , Vlasic had decent tournament IMO!

My main flaw was that we were basically allowed to dress 7 D. Vlasic did well, but Hamhuis hardly played. I think it would have made more sense to play PK as the 7th, put him on the PP, and give him time when we needed a boost of offense. Can you imagine starting a rush with PK and Doughty manning the back ends?
 
My main flaw was that we were basically allowed to dress 7 D. Vlasic did well, but Hamhuis hardly played. I think it would have made more sense to play PK as the 7th, put him on the PP, and give him time when we needed a boost of offense. Can you imagine starting a rush with PK and Doughty manning the back ends?

Gave up 3 goals in 6 games. 'Nuff said.
 
Yep. Very risky by Canada though. A bounce in the Latvia or Finland game and Canada would have had to change strategies.

But the defense was the strength of the team. The forwards finally showed up in the gold medal game and it was the second easiest win they had.
 
Defence is overrated when you're playing most of your games against teams with next to no offensive potential. Dressing PK would not have turned the Canadian blue line into cheesecloth. They'd still be dominant if you replaced Vlasic with Subban. The difference is that they would have another offensive threat. The weakness of the Canadian team was on offense. The forwards generated next to nothing until the final game. Babpenis should have been looking for an ingredient to add offence and worried less about the back end. As soon as Luongo was benched they had nothing to worry about back there.
 
if the result is all that matters, then you must be pleased with Therrien's decision making since taking over as coach

Seulement dit

Not sure how being satisfied with the top prize can be compared to the Habs being ousted in the 1st round.

Hard to complain too much when you win gold.
 
Therrien's teams don't resemble Team Canada; they resemble Team Latvia: zero offence. Just hang back and let your goalie win the game for you.
 
Not sure how being satisfied with the top prize can be compared to the Habs being ousted in the 1st round.

Hard to complain too much when you win gold.

you missed my point though, he often complains/as do many here, even when we win.

if the result is all that matters, then it doesn't matter how you get there

not playing Subban over Hamhuis and Vlasic is not any more justifiable just because we won, nor was taking Kunitz nor playing Tavares on the fourth line

No one will complain now because we won, but ultimately, they were wrong decisions
 
Not sure how being satisfied with the top prize can be compared to the Habs being ousted in the 1st round.

Hard to complain too much when you win gold.

Your avatar is wrong. Recent events suggest Carey should be in the foreground.
 
you missed my point though, he often complains/as do many here, even when we win.

if the result is all that matters, then it doesn't matter how you get there

not playing Subban over Hamhuis and Vlasic is not any more justifiable just because we won, nor was taking Kunitz nor playing Tavares on the fourth line

No one will complain now because we won, but ultimately, they were wrong decisions

I don't think you can win a Stanley Cup (or even get close to one) playing the way the Habs do on most nights (under MT), regardless of how good Price is.
 
you missed my point though, he often complains/as do many here, even when we win.

if the result is all that matters, then it doesn't matter how you get there

not playing Subban over Hamhuis and Vlasic is not any more justifiable just because we won, nor was taking Kunitz nor playing Tavares on the fourth line

No one will complain now because we won, but ultimately, they were wrong decisions

I thought they were at the time too but the way we played from the Latvia game onward suggests that I might have been wrong, especially in regard to Subban. His game can be very high risk, even if fun to watch as a fan.
 
Kerr did an article showing that he is actually the second least riskiest dman on Team Canada. It was just media created bullshit that somehow he is bad defensively.
 
Kerr did an article showing that he is actually the second least riskiest dman on Team Canada. It was just media created bullshit that somehow he is bad defensively.

I never said he was bad defensively. But trying to skate the puck through the entire opposing team might not be the best idea at this level.
 
you missed my point though, he often complains/as do many here, even when we win.

if the result is all that matters, then it doesn't matter how you get there

not playing Subban over Hamhuis and Vlasic is not any more justifiable just because we won, nor was taking Kunitz nor playing Tavares on the fourth line

No one will complain now because we won, but ultimately, they were wrong decisions

Winning a game is not the same as winning it all.

I feel we could win a lot more games if Therrien wasn't such a dolt. As much as I disagreed with a few of Bobcock's decisions, I can't really complain too much now that they won the gold.
 
you missed my point though, he often complains/as do many here, even when we win.

if the result is all that matters, then it doesn't matter how you get there

not playing Subban over Hamhuis and Vlasic is not any more justifiable just because we won, nor was taking Kunitz nor playing Tavares on the fourth line

No one will complain now because we won, but ultimately, they were wrong decisions

If Therrien won us the Stanley Cup last year and did it by benching Subban or whatever means, then I would be happy with it. Like with Babcock, in retrospect, his moves worked. And really, the only reason I complain about the use of Subban is because as a member of the Habs, I think it would have been good for him to get more games in playing with those other superstars. But the end resulted worked out, so for Canada's sake I won't make a huge fuss over it.
 
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