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2020 Offseason Miscellaneous Thread

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NBA planning 72 games starting Dec 22nd. I don't think NHL should play 82 games as well. Cutting 3 months out of the season is too much to stick with 82 unless they go to August which I doubt they will .
 
Paulie Walnuts said:
NBA planning 72 games starting Dec 22nd. I don't think NHL should play 82 games as well. Cutting 3 months out of the season is too much to stick with 82 unless they go to August which I doubt they will .
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They can’t go to August if they want TV. NBC has a hard stop on July 22 when the Olympics start.

the NHL can go with a 70 game season, but it will be unbalanced. In the Eastern Conference, they can play 5 games against each team in the conference, that’s 70 games. They’ll have to make up the imbalance between home games in a future season. In the Western Conference, the same scheme will net 65 games. They can stay with that or find 5 more games. But the difference in games played won’t matter much without cross-conference games, each team in each conference plays the same opponents the same number of times.
 
Will the NHL even play this season if they can't get fans in the stands? In the absence of a Covid vaccine/cure/treatment, there is no way in hell I'm going to sit in a building with 19000 maskless people yelling their damn fool heads off.
 
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Will the NHL even play this season if they can't get fans in the stands? In the absence of a Covid vaccine/cure/treatment, there is no way in hell I'm going to sit in a building with 19000 maskless people yelling their damn fool heads off.
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That's a real stumbling block that can't be ignored. Simply re-opening public meeting spaces hasn't been as impactful as some have hoped simply because so few people are willing to expose themselves to large indoor gatherings. Yeah, it's not everybody ... but look at movie theaters. They tried opening them up and even had a couple of first run movies to show ... and VERY few people showed up to buy tickets to sit in a room with a bunch of strangers for a couple of hours. Out west some music venues have tried to re-open and they ran into the same problem ... quickly shifting gears to limited audience, socially distanced shows with mostly solo artists instead of full bands.

Until there's a widely distributed (and trusted) vaccine I don't think the heavy demand is going to be there for indoor sporting and entertainment events to make the revenues justify the operational expenses.
 
I still expect the NHL will have a season of 48 regular season games regardless of whether or not they can get fans into the stands or not. How the NHL will do even that will remain a mystery well into the coming months.

Assuming that the plan allows for the Canes to play games at PNC at some point, we won't know what that means in terms of fans in the stands as that will depend on State level restrictions at that point in time. I'm not at all sure what the CURRENT restrictions would even mean for a game at PNC, but I'm pretty sure that you basically would not be able to have hardly anyone in the stands with the current restrictions in place.

By Feb 2021, does Cooper amend Covid restrictions to accommodate the Canes and provide 5 or 10% of capacity with full social distancing measures (ie 900-1800 fans?) If so, how do the Canes decide who those 900-1800 fans are? Season Tix members only? How do they seat everyone? And to JB's point, are there even 900-1800 people WILLING to go to PNC arena to watch a hockey game? (I suspect yes)

Of course for those of us paying 'reduced monthly payments' for our 20-21 season tickets now, this is pretty important question. The Canes already credited my 20-21 ticket cost with money refunded from the 7 home games not played last season. BY the time the 20-21 season is sorted out, how much of my money will they be holding for games not played in the "20-21" season? Those of us continuing to let it ride with season ticket payment plans might barely have to pay anything for 21-22 season tickets.

I don't think the NHL will actually elect to not play a reduced schedule and full playoffs . Even with the 'labor peace and new CBA', there will be some contentious conversations and decisions about how to proceed with this next season. There is lots of pretty hard work to be done.
 
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I’m in the same boat with my Broadway Series South subscription at DPAC. The last 4 shows of the 2019-20 season were postponed. They announced the full slate of 2020-21 shows and added Wicked in September and Hamilton in December/January. Wicked is TBD and Hamilton was pushed to May 2022. The rest of the schedule? Forget it. There are 6 shows scheduled between the end of January and Memorial Day, some were holdovers, some were new. They sent out an email in August with a note that they anticipated some national tours resuming later next year. They suspended invoices on their ticket plans until January 1, I suspect that it will be further delayed If the season doesn’t resume until this time next year. At this rate, they’ll spend the 2021-22 season catching up.
 
I've got tickets to several live shows that got pushed ... first to late 2020 and then to the same dates in 2021. Right now I have no idea if those dates will stand or not. But dangit all ... whenever Jason Isbell ends up playing at DPAC, I'm going to freaking be there.
 
if they stay with 7% allowed that's 1260 people for PNC arena. Slightly more for hoops. I don't see that 7% changing by Jan 1st. with that small number it may be cheaper not to allow fans than to hire people to work there . Of course it depends on how many they need to hire. I would go to a game with 1260 people but it will be very odd. Of course Greensboro had 3-5k for some games .
 
I don't understand the point. With only about 1300 fans in the stands, you are not making up any lost revenue in a meaningful way unless you're charging $5000 per ticket.

So, how else can you recover lost revenue? Ads on uniforms? Can that accomplish what is needed?
 
point is will 1300 people even cover costs of running PNC arena for a night? HVAC costs alone must be a lot. even for a day They don't need to have full staff there but they need minimal staff. Concessions, security, parking, etc. I think they will allow limited fans but they may not make much money.
 
Paulie Walnuts said:
point is will 1300 people even cover costs of running PNC arena for a night? HVAC costs alone must be a lot. even for a day They don't need to have full staff there but they need minimal staff. Concessions, security, parking, etc. I think they will allow limited fans but they may not make much money.
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Well, if the league mandates the games, they’ll have to play, so the cost of running the arena is sunk. Concessions will be probably be closed, but I would imagine everything else at full price. They could choose to leave the building empty, that would reduce the number of security/parking/etc. they’d have to bring in and try to keep the cost to just operating the arena and not paying game day personnel.

Does anyone know how any of the football stadiums are operating?
 
NCSU ECU Wake Forest Duke and UNC are playing at home. NCSU and UNC are allowing 7% I think the others are too Panthers also allowing 7%. I assume they are cutting way down on staffing. And I think tailgating is banned too. Surely they would rather have bigger crowds but TV money is the big thing now even in college FB. TV pretty much runs college FB that's why most of the Big East joined the ACC.
Many "old timers" don't like having Pitt, BC , Syracuse, etc in the ACC. I have no problem with it. And I'm old :)
 
Our company prez has had NCSU season f/b tix for years and we don't go to games this year.
Sux because 3/4 of us that go are State grads, one worked there a couple decades and prez is a former Pack l/b.
I can't stand the Big East teams, Louisville and ND in the ACC and I'm almost as old as you and also a NE transplant. I still like the more regional conferences.
Yay 2020...
 
The NHL will play some sort of schedule, they have to, it just is not feasible to just pull the plug and not play any hockey next season. I still think the league may have to go to that all Canadian division plan because that elephant in the room with the Canadian Government restrictions will continue to throw a wrench in the NHL's planning as a whole. The losses will be legendary overall and a team or two could be in real trouble but let's all hope for the love of the game that at some point a vaccine makes it safe to get back into the rinks again.
 
I saw him last year at Koka Booth, it was a fantastic show, of course, but he didn't play that one
 
Alex Trebek said the Kings TV play by play guy Alex Faust would be a good Jeopardy host. He's 31 and Kings hired him 3 years ago. Guess we will find out soon who gets the job. It pays very well and they don't work every week. I think they shoot 5 episodes a day 2 days in a row. Lots of time off .
 
Paulie Walnuts said:
Alex Trebek said the Kings TV play by play guy Alex Faust would be a good Jeopardy host. He's 31 and Kings hired him 3 years ago. Guess we will find out soon who gets the job. It pays very well and they don't work every week. I think they shoot 5 episodes a day 2 days in a row. Lots of time off .
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IMO it’s probably going to be Ken Jennings. The brought him in as a consulting producer this season. They have enough episodes in the can to get to Christmas Day.
 
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